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#13563 - 04/14/04 06:56 PM
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Chris_4
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Hey, i just finished talking to my Ex, i can see us becoming good friends again just cause i liked her so much... but one thing she said to me, stuck with me
"you need to start being more of an ass, nice guys finish last..."
I'm a pretty mellow and easy going kid, and i hate being an ass but i bet if i was more of a prick, (instread of treating her like a queen) for some reason we'd still be together...
Why is it nice guys always seem to finish last?
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#13564 - 04/14/04 07:17 PM
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I totally disagree with that...I go for the sweet guys even if they are ugly  because Ive been with too many pricks...so maybe if she starts dating and winds up with alot of assholes she'll realize what shes missin...or then again...that could just be her taste
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#13566 - 04/14/04 09:10 PM
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yeah man that article was tottaly right, i was thinking that afterwards to... if i just said some shit that was on my mind to her (sexual wise)... she would have agreed..
oh well you live you learn but fack
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#13567 - 04/14/04 09:15 PM
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I know how you feel. I am very nice and I used to never express myself, but I am getting better and better and saying my mind and more girls are begining to notice me (that might also be becuase of the weight loss too).
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#13568 - 04/14/04 09:58 PM
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You know what, screw it. I'm going to be a nice guy even if it's supposedly bad for me. I'll get what I deserve in the end.
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#13569 - 04/14/04 10:25 PM
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"Nice Guys Finish Last"... but atleast we finish.
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#13570 - 04/15/04 12:20 AM
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oh man theres nothing wrong with being nice, i just needed to drop more subtle sexual hints
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#13571 - 04/15/04 02:08 AM
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girls are so goddamn complicated, it's hard to tell what they want and don't want. I say just be who you are, if you are a nice guy, screw it, be a nice guy, why try and be a fake asshole, we all saw how good that worked in American Wedding (I know it's only a movie). Just act as yourself and it will work out. See, I have this problem, I totally know how to explain it, but I can't follow my own advice. Maybe, someday, someone will kick my ass, and I will finally figure out how to be myself... who knows.
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#13572 - 04/15/04 11:11 AM
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Your girlfriend said that to you?! She couldn't find a more specific way of phrasing it? Its possible you may need to display more assertivenss and confidence but I would not link these traits with being an ass.
Your friend needs more tact in her truths. She deserves to date an ass.
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#13573 - 04/15/04 01:10 PM
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nice guys dont always finish last. my boyfriend is the nicest guy, love him to pieces. She will realise what she is missing out on, if she doesnt, you can do better. nice guys will eventually come out on top. don't change the way you are just for one girl, just be the nice guy you are, dont ever change to please other people, specially not into an arse, not good.
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#13574 - 04/15/04 03:03 PM
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Its true. I consider myself to be the nicest you could ever be, and I always have crappy crappy luck with girls.
But I just can't be an ass. It's not in my nature to do so. I'd rather not be a dick and not get some than be an asshole and get it every night.
That sounds really bad :|
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#13575 - 04/15/04 04:03 PM
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no it doesn't. I agree with what you said.
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#13576 - 04/15/04 05:28 PM
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she said, your to nice, nice guys finish last... man i figured it out, its just cause i was too nervous and shit to make a move, and then when i thought i was giving her what she wanted she freaked...
looking back it was a big lack of communication
its bascially a learning process, a painful one but one i'd imagien everyone goes through
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#13577 - 04/15/04 06:44 PM
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I got a better one. Nice guys don't finish last, it's just a lot of chicks don't know what they want.... works in my case anyways.
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#13579 - 04/15/04 11:12 PM
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lmao. I guess you've got a point.
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#13580 - 04/15/04 11:52 PM
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yeah i'm also gonna have to agree with chicks don't know what they want, but i'ma stop worrying about thsi stuff, and havae a good weekend
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#13581 - 04/16/04 09:08 PM
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i think i have the exact same problem.. fkin nice.. fker
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#13582 - 04/19/04 01:49 AM
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nice guys are #1! ive been dating my nice guy for a year and three months. yes, sometimes hes...too nice, but i love him all the same, just as he loves me for being an ass hole.
nice guys out there, stay nice, someday you'll find someone who you can be with forever. but those ass holes, theyll go from girl to girl, only to realize theyre going to be alone for the rest of their lives.
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#13583 - 04/30/04 04:43 PM
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It's just that nice guys let people shit on them in most cases. Girls want guys who won't let anyone take advantage of them. If a girl knows she can take from you, she will. I'm not saying this about myself, but usually superficial girls will do that.
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#13585 - 05/01/04 06:27 AM
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I'm a nice guy and I always finish last. I have no luck with girls. THe ones I'm interested in aren't usually interested in me or they have boyfriends. I'm 21 and I still haven't had a girlfriend. So yes, nice guys DO finish last.
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#13586 - 05/04/04 09:35 PM
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Yea, I don't know if I agree to that..... the girls I know don't like sexual stuff. Whenever I mentions oomething sexual they get all blushy and dont want to talk to me.
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#13587 - 05/04/04 09:47 PM
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Hmm... how old are they?
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#13589 - 05/13/04 10:40 AM
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In reply to:
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its true
why? girls are dumb
forget bout them unless you're good at being an ass
better things out there, such as cars
theres always the exhaust pipe too 
lol jj
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#13590 - 05/23/04 04:30 AM
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some girls are just too picky. They prefer the bigger and better looking guy who may not be as smart.
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#13591 - 07/01/04 07:57 PM
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err, i'm a nice guy and i won't say i finish last. just be confident in yourself.
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#13592 - 07/02/04 02:06 AM
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thats because i think girls just like to be pushed around... i know it may sound mean but i really think thats right... i mean i'm a complete ass... and thats my way of flirting and for some reason it always works... but i just say some jackass remark thats not to harsh but still not nice... some girls like good gentlemen who pick up their pen when they drop it... but others like it when you kick the pen so its esier for them to pick it up...
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#13593 - 07/02/04 03:17 PM
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A lot of girls want what they can't have. Nice guys come off as the ones they can get, while jerks seem like the ones that are hard to get.
One of my friend's has been with a lot of girls and he told me something pretty funny. He said the girls found it easier to leave him or would take it easier if he broke up with them if he was nice the whole time. But the girl's he lost interest in and tried to make them brake up with them wouldn't leave and would just put up with all the shit he put them through. His new philosophy is that it's good to be an asshole every once in a while because it keeps the girl interested. Blah.
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#13595 - 07/02/04 09:17 PM
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I hate to say this, but it sounds like your ex isn't the most articulate female around. Being an ass usually gets you kicked in it.
Nice guys don't finish last; it's NON-ASSERTIVE guys who don't finish last. Trust me when I tell you this, because I'm speaking from experience. A good friend of mine felt that by being an asshole, he'd be able to get further ahead in life. The result of him being an asshole almost resulted in him being kicked out of the college we attended, as well as going onto his educational record. I'm not saying he didn't get ahead in some aspects, but what got him ahead was being assertive. Yes assholes can be assertive too, but they tend to make more enemies.
Try to think of it in terms of a going to a party, where anyone who's anyone will be there: when you walk into that party, do you want people to whisper, "There's that jerk. Who the hell invited him?" or would you rather have people come up to you and shake your hand, like you were royalty? Nice guys get that- assholes don't.
Being assertive doesn't mean you have to be an ass. You can still be a nice guy, but don't let people walk all over you. If someone does something you don't like, call them on it, but don't be a jerk about it.
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#13596 - 07/03/04 03:27 AM
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that entire post doesn't mean anything to me until i know what assertive means...
whats assertive mean?
and ahhh yeah i was thinkin about this this afternoon... so i tried being nice to this one chick i have no care about.. well i care about her but i dont care if she hates me or somtin... and then i was a complete ass to this other chick.. (same thing) and the other chick i was being an ass too actually wanted to go to come over... weird the girl i was nice to wasnt as intrested
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#13597 - 07/03/04 09:01 AM
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Being assertive means not being a doormat to be walked all over - it means making your feelings known, not pretending you don't have them because that might upset someone. It means standing up for yourself.
Of course, there can be a fine line between being assertive and being an asshole. There are times when it's better not to be assertive. But if you never make your true feelings known, something is wrong.
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#13598 - 07/05/04 12:55 AM
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assholes are screwey nice is the way to go man GIRLS DIG IT! 
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#13599 - 07/05/04 09:07 PM
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I couldn't agree more, from my experience it's the backstabbing bastards that get all the attention, all the girls love their bad image and people who genuinely care about people's feelings get to be "just friends"
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#13601 - 07/06/04 03:55 AM
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yeah yeah yeah we sorta already got to that point...
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#13603 - 07/11/04 04:55 AM
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In reply to:
I'm with a wonderful man
ummmm typo?
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#13605 - 07/11/04 08:25 PM
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Me again, throwing in a quick point.
I recently started talking to a girl, and things seemed ok to begin with. Possibly because I was quite sarcastic to her.
After a while, she decided to stop talking to me.
The last thing she said to me was "stop being nice".
Interesting huh?
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#13606 - 07/12/04 05:18 AM
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oo god i thought it was i am a wonderful man wow i dont know how to read lol i funno how i miss read that i read that over and over again
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#13607 - 07/12/04 11:57 AM
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im a very nice guy and ive had 2 chicks, but none have lasted for too long. i treat them very well, probably too well. lol. but there is one junior who all the girls love even though he dates the hottest chick in school, because he will drive anyone around who cant drive if they want taco bell or something. so he gets the chicks and he is extremely nice. i just think i get to be too nice and that might not help. its soooo hard!
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#13608 - 07/13/04 12:41 PM
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Nice guys DO finish last, but you don't need to be an asshole to change that.
Here are some rules of thumb for guys:
- Use confident body language
- Be nice ON YOUR OWN TERMS
- Be cocky and funny
- Be unpredictable
- Play hard to get
- End dates and conversations YOURSELF
- Don't act like all you want is sex, but don't act nervous whenever the subject comes up
- Don't be needy
- Do not buy her everything she wants or try to buy her love
- Don't worry about your results
- Do NOT reveal your feelings too early
- Do NOT be a wussy!
This is just a summary of the many things I learned from David DeAngelo at DoubleYourDating.com
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#13609 - 07/13/04 06:59 PM
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that sounds good, i noticed i missed a lot of that.
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#13610 - 07/14/04 03:27 AM
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Just wanna add I have a really awesome girlfriend now. It seems being a nice guy pays off.
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#13611 - 07/17/04 08:11 PM
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You should have slapped the bitch for saying that! Just kiddng!
I sometimes wonder if women subconsciously want to be treated not so nice. Perhaps it has to do with their self-esteem. My first girlfriend said to me on several occasions "I don't know why you like me so much." Yikes. Not surprisingly, she was a very self-depricating person who had an overall shitty attitude about just about everything.
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#13612 - 07/17/04 10:17 PM
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ive listened to love line a lot and they say like if theyve had a tramad past theyll want to be treated bad. i guess if there dad isnt real nice that can be a reason. even if they dont like there dad they will want to be treated like how he would.
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#13613 - 07/20/04 01:31 AM
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dude your talking to a guy who has been on your side of the fence forever but unlike me you actually had a gf that shows your doing somthing right im guessing your still a tennagaer so one hting ive noticed is high school girls tend to go for the assholes but later in life sensitive guys get the girls you just gotta hold
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#13614 - 07/24/04 06:09 PM
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I would just like to say, i started a huge ass thread on this topic 
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#13615 - 07/27/04 11:27 PM
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Just gotta find the right girls. I know plenty who'll go out with 'nice guys'. Then again, they're mostly from my church...
And it's not some competition about finishing first or last, it's about finding the person you want to spend your life with(unless of course you're just looking for sex, in which case 'nice guys' are in trouble).
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#13616 - 08/10/04 12:26 AM
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well u could do it like i do,if ur girl is attracted to assholish people for some reason (like mine) just be an asshole for most of the time not to much of course but when it really counts be urself
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