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A man is only responsible for his own actions, but men do need a "babysitter" sometimes. You gotta admit, a lot of men would be telling the wifey he's going out to the titty bar every night.

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Allowing people to rely on "babysitters" may be why they need them so much

Anyway, let me sum up my feelings about the last day or so of abortion talk. I've heard a lot of talk about punishing sexual irresponsibility and how women "control sex." If we put this all together, the argument goes something like this:

Men are irresponsible and unable to determine their own sexual relationships. Women control sex, and the best way to control men is to punish women with abortion laws. After all, in your hypothetical about the woman having sex with the irresponsible man, who do you think gets punished by strict abortion laws? Is it the man?

I've already made my argument (earlier in this thread) for why punishing irresponsible sex with pregnancy is so foolish. I think that punishing women (and only women) for the actions of both men and women is even more baseless.

In the world in which I live, it takes two people to have sex, and either party can say "no."

As I told Zach, pro-lifers should stick with the "fetus is alive argument." It's not an argument to which I subscribe, but at least it’s not patently offensive or irrational.

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Allowing people to rely on "babysitters" may be why they need them so much

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Abortion can be looked at as a babysitter.

The purpose of making abortion illegal is not to punish, rather to create more incentive and initiative toward education and the use of contraceptives.

My father has a philosophy, and it goes something like this. The more rights one has then the more power and the more responsibility must be taken. Over the years, women have become less responsible because they've become less moral, and so some rights probably shouldn't have been awarded, like abortion. But it has already been given, and what you have given cannot be taken away. The morality of this country is beyond repair.

I branch away from his philosophy in thinking that there is still hope for morality to return but it takes something drastic to change it.

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well, at least when his father dies, we have one less idiot to worry about

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except hes already passed on his dilusions to his son...its a pity, this cycle of ignorance.

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teenages (who im assuming you are ranting on about, im assuming) arent fit to be parents.

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My father has a philosophy, and it goes something like this. The more rights one has then the more power and the more responsibility must be taken. Over the years, women have become less responsible because they've become less moral, and so some rights probably shouldn't have been awarded, like abortion. But it has already been given, and what you have given cannot be taken away. The morality of this country is beyond repair.

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I feel at ease knowing that your father has set the moral values for an entire country

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