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#160828 - 01/18/06 10:42 AM
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littlestricky
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My fiances son who is 15 is getting some mixed messages regarding his treatment for ADD using Adderall. His father is saying that he should take the medication in the dosage perscribed every day including weekends. Another family member is saying that it is not necessary to keep the medication in the body at a certain level so the kid can take weekends off.
I have no clue. Anyone have any insights?
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#160829 - 01/18/06 10:51 AM
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Personally never listen to what other people say... do as your doctor prescribes they know best.
Maybe not the answer you are looking for but I work in a doctor’s office and you should never listen to anyone outside your medical professionals when it comes to any type of drug. Do as the boy’s doctor says when it comes to his Adderall.
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#160830 - 01/18/06 10:57 AM
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I agree with Ntro, listen to the doctor, not people who 'think' they no, with the best will in the world they arn't doctors.
If there is some confusion im sure the doctor wouldn't mind a quick phone call to go over things,if an appointment isn't available, all medication needs to be taken properly they know that and i don't think any good doctor would mind.
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#160831 - 01/18/06 11:30 AM
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The problem is that two seperate doctors are giving two seperate opinions. I would not think that an amphetamine would need to be maintained at a certain level at all times but I could be very wrong. I do not want to get into a pissing contest with the kids biological father if there is a solid basis to his opinion. If he is just an ass, it is a different thing.
That is why I asked the question.
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#160832 - 01/18/06 12:32 PM
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Is he getting Adderall XR, the controlled-release (long-lasting) version? Would he have withdrawal effects every weekend? If the drug is effective, does it make sense for him to exhibit AD(H?)D symptoms every weekend?
I assume he has no issue with his heart or blood pressure.
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#160834 - 01/18/06 01:45 PM
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Im kind of confused as to what the opinions were fromt he two doctors. MAy be you should get a thrisd MD opinion, either that or talk to the pharmacist and see what they say
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#160835 - 03/09/06 02:12 PM
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Adderalls fucking awesome, I took like 4 of those one night with some Klonopins and 6 shots of Smirnoff. I somehow woke up the next morning 30 miles away at a highway reststop sleeping on top of a picnic table in the rain, somehow I drove all the way there.
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#160836 - 03/11/06 04:40 PM
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In reply to:
Adderalls fucking awesome
Don't you mean "Adderall sucks?"
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#160837 - 05/01/06 12:50 AM
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My psyciatrist said that if you take a day off the medicine there can be rebounding effects...like WORSE ADD/ADHD so right now im on it everyday..
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#160839 - 07/25/06 09:54 PM
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adderall is extremely addicting to use if caught in the habbit. It is the same drug that is used to make XTC in case anyone wanted to know ;O
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#160841 - 07/26/06 07:45 PM
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He made the same nonsensical claim here. I don't know if he has an axe to grind or what. I'll just repeat what I said there:
Adderall is 1-phenylpropan-2-amine (C9H13N). Ecstasy (MDMA) is 1-benzo[1,3]dioxol-5-yl-N-methyl-propan-2-amine (C11H15NO2).
As you can see, they're not even close.
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#160842 - 07/26/06 07:47 PM
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Actually, they are quite close, but that doesn't mean they have the same pharmacological properties.
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#160843 - 07/26/06 07:56 PM
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You mean in regard to the shape of their molecule? Did I get the empirical formulae right?
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#160844 - 07/26/06 09:04 PM
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Adderal is amphetamine (as a mixture of mirror images), and Ecstacy is a substituted amphetamine, so chemically they are very similar. However, the substitution changes the shape of the molecule, and therefore changes its pharmacological properties. Though they have some effects in common (e.g. appetite suppression), in other ways they are very different.
They are molecular formulae and not just empirical formulae (empirical formulae are the lowest possible ratios of numbers of atoms) and they are correct.  Of course in organic chemistry mere formulae are not sufficient, as millions of different compounds can have the same formula.
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#160845 - 07/26/06 09:09 PM
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D'oh! Didn't take chemistry at university. What kind of school lets you get an engineering degree without requiring chemistry? Too much physics, not enough chemistry.
Yes...they are amphetamines...as is methedrine.
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#160846 - 09/09/06 01:06 PM
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So this is an old post, and may be considered dead, but I thought I'd drop my tiny bit o' input. The main difference between Adderall and most ADD/ADHD medications is that Adderall lasts approximately 24 hours per dosage (Of course, this depends entirely on the mg prescribed and the person taking the medication) whereas most of these medications actually need to build up in the patient's system to truly take affect. For instance, Adderall can be taken safely throughout the work week and left ignored over the weekend without fear of a "reverse affect" or withdrawal as I saw one or two people mention.
A couple of my issues with the medication stem not from the abuse (which essentially any idiot could do with any medication) but from the way I felt while on and off of the drug. I think that yes, the medication does help in some instances (like reading and test-taking) but the euphoric feeling that I had with those positive effects felt too Fake when I came off of the medication.
I believe that for some people, hard work, a good counselor who can help with scheduling and organization, and even exercise can really have the most positive affect on an ADD mind. What I mean to say is, medication may be necessary, but it should never be the first solution. The "easy" way out is certainly rarely best.
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#266805 - 03/17/07 03:29 PM
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wtf, no it doesn't.
adderall is perscribed to work 13 hours at a time . . . I don't know where you got that but you can't sleep when you're on it. you can't drink coffee, basically the stuff is very addictive if you abuse it. I take 10MG RIGHT when I wake up, it wears off by the evening.
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#270110 - 04/11/07 05:47 PM
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So this is an old post, and may be considered dead, but I thought I'd drop my tiny bit o' input. The main difference between Adderall and most ADD/ADHD medications is that Adderall lasts approximately 24 hours per dosage (Of course, this depends entirely on the mg prescribed and the person taking the medication) whereas most of these medications actually need to build up in the patient's system to truly take affect. For instance, Adderall can be taken safely throughout the work week and left ignored over the weekend without fear of a "reverse affect" or withdrawal as I saw one or two people mention.
Okay,
My little brother takes adderal, not the XR, the real stuff.
He takes 20 mg in the morning, and 10 mg during lunch at school.
It wears off around 6 or 7 o'clock. Yes, he isn't hungry while he is on it, but he is much more controllable.
I apologize for writing on a pretty dead thread.
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#270167 - 04/11/07 09:36 PM
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Replying to old stuff is ok, as long as there is something new to add...NOT the "I agree with so and so" stuff we usually see.
Can you explain the difference of the "real stuff" though? Every thing now is extended relief. Do you know if the other wears off sooner than what they really prescribe?
I only ask, because, stuff like ibuprofen is supposed to last 6-8 hrs, but we find that in 4 it is wearing off.
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#270192 - 04/12/07 12:50 AM
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Well, when I say real stuff I use the term relatively.
We tried the XR for a few months, and my little brother seemed unaffected.
He has a pretty bad case of ADHD, he has extreme anger problems, he doesn't respect authority, ect. So Adderall has really helped him. He's on the chess team, the quiz bowl team, and makes straight A's.
He's really been focused,
yes,
he hates taking it,
but its worth it.
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#270222 - 04/12/07 11:10 AM
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I still don't understand 'real stuff'.
My son originally took Adderall XR and it effected him in a big way.....he was unable to fall asleep until 11:00pm, he became extremely emotional, depressed and angry. It really wasn't for him and I was ready to say forget the whole medication thing. But then we tried Focalin and it works great. He, like your brother, is on the chess team and gets almost straight A's. Most importantly, he really likes himself and is proud of himself.
Anyway, I felt I had to add that because I think medication effects people differently. What works for one may not work for another. And I really felt uncomfortable with your term 'real stuff'.
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#270228 - 04/12/07 11:55 AM
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Weeds good...
No, really. Before I take a test, I blaze; it's how I get really good marks in school. I'd be like a C student with out it.
It also relives stress, which is a good thing! And lets my creativity out :).
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#270239 - 04/12/07 12:50 PM
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Why do you even come here?
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#270334 - 04/12/07 10:23 PM
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And I really felt uncomfortable with your term 'real stuff'.
I'm sorry if that made you uncomfortable,
It wasn't meant to be offensive.
What I'm saying is, the XR lasts most of the day, but therefore the same amount of medicine has to be extended over a longer period of time.
He needs more faster.
When he does get home and medicine wears off, he experiences mood swings and can't always sleep, but its good overall.
Also,
weed...hahahaha.
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