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#298983 - 11/28/07 02:25 PM
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maybe it goes here maybe it doesnt, find out we hope, today if its cancer or if its atleast likely to not be cancer.
Some time (a few weeks ago) I mentioned my son having some medical problems, after much bullshit and referals and scheduling and fucking holidays today is the day he finally gets to see a specialist.
While I know Ill have no resluts today I am hoping that we can atleast get a better idea of what we are up against, if its cancer, or if its not.
We know its not a fluid filled sack in his testicals, one of them is the size of a grapefruit and is firm and not squishy like a fluid sack is. It COULD be a fatty deposit that grew out of control but the doc doenst seme to thinks os because of how firm it is and that its in one testical and extends to his abdomen.
Hes 14, 15 the end of december.
He found the problem a year ago,never said shit till a doctor found it on a physical for him to play basketball for the school.
We are WAY late on getting help because of that.
Ill post more topnight when we have actually seen the specialist and know more of whats going on, just starting the thread with some facts so it can be added to later as new shit and information is found out.
I meant to do this a while ago, but doing it sorta makes it real and its something I have been trying not to deal with till we actually got in to see a specialist.
Scotty, Pepsi, Helms, SDP, Inelliglble, and al the others that wished me and my son luck, thanks, I hope luck is on our sidde and its a minor bullshit thing that can be easily corrected and get his ass back on track. If not... then I guess we just deal with that shit as it comes. Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
Mainly my hope is that this thread is found by some asshole kid who thinks its all fine but has one nut growing large and fast and doesnt tell his parents so it can be looked into. Maybe what comes of this can influence them that its either nothing bad and can be easily dealt with and treated or convince them of the urgency and need to get it looked at right away because it can be serious and bad shit.
And now Im off to pull my son out of school and head to Primary Childens Medical center, a really fucking great hospital with a good staff, they have been taking care of my 17 year old for about 16 years now with his diabeties. Ther isnt anyone Id feel more comfortable with for a problem with my children. Im lucky to have them an hour away, people come from the country and world over to get care at that facility, and if it does go to shit, Huntsmans Cancer center is built on with a sky walk between them. Another great hospital where my 17 year old had thyroid removal for cancer a couple years ago.
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#298988 - 11/28/07 02:31 PM
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Good luck. Fingers are crossed, and all that for your son.
Keep that chin up!
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#298989 - 11/28/07 02:35 PM
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I was wondering last week what happened to you guys. I really hope it's not cancer. Even if it's a non-cancerous tumor or something like that, I would rather lose a testicle to that than have it be cancer. Good Luck! Keep us updated.
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#298991 - 11/28/07 03:29 PM
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Good luck! I hope everything turns out well.
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#298994 - 11/28/07 04:09 PM
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I'll be waiting anxiously for more news, hoping it's good.
There's likely to be a biopsy and a few days' more wait, though. 
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#299001 - 11/28/07 05:01 PM
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Ya know where all hoping for the best Chance. There'll more than likely be a wait before a biopsy comes back. I think I had to wait about 4 or 5 days. In the meantime be strong for your boy, as I know you will, but don't forget to take care of yourself.
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#299026 - 11/28/07 07:24 PM
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Its Odd, the last few weeks Iv been looking for any ciolence I could get, fights in traffic, or anyone I could get to take a swing in a store, I went out last friday just to get into shit with people. Now that we know whats going on, I almost feel worn out and ready for rest, and a big fat fucking joint to put me to sleep tonight.
No biopsi, an light test and a ultra sound.
because the small falshlight passes light through the nutsack evenly there is nothing there, nothing solid atleast.
what the FNP was certain it wasnt is what it is.
a hydrocell.
your nuts are encased in a bag that has some fluid in it, normally the body absorbs the fluid as it builds up, in my sons case it never absorbed it from that one nut so its grown and grown and gotten to be so huge. from the time we saw the FNP that referred us to the specialist its grown a half inch.
Its also possible to have a pediatric hernia but those are rare in children over 3 years old, but we wont really know till we cut him open.
anyways the light test made it all seem good. the ultra sound made it all better, its 100% fucking fluid. his sack will be cut open with about an 1 inch hole, the fluid drained, part of the inner sack removed, then stitched closed. the one side is huge, but requires no surgery to fix (after this surgery) its stretched out but shuold return to normal size with in 3 to 6 months. My sons biggest concern was that he would be left with one nut hanging to his knees from a stretched out sack so that was an important bit of info to get today.
Fluids are never cancerous so we are out of the woods on the cancer part, but it will still be tested once its removed.
Surgery is scheduled for Dec. 21, no known time yet, they will let us know what time when they call the night before. surgery from the time hes taken in to be given the general till hes willed out to recovery shuold be less than a single hour, its an outpatient surgery, and he should be walking fairly normal in 3 to 5 days. hes happy as its gonna be over christmas vacation so no extra homework to make up for being out of school for a week or so, and he wont miss any of basketball season, or atleast shouldnt, and if he does ti will be minimal.
Holy fuck I feel better, I think even it had been cancer knowing would feel better than not knowing.
I thank ya all for the good wishes for my son, now I can relax a bit till the 21 st, then only have to worrie about getting through surgery, and a simple and relatively minor one at that.
The phone calls to around the country to let family know what was going on was much better this time than when I was explaining what could be wrong a few weeks ago.
Had he told anyone when this first started happening it would of been a simpler surgery and wouldnt take 6 months for his sack to shrink back to normal, and it oculd of been cancer, when you deal with medical shit, you are far better off to deal with it right away.
Now, all I have left to worrie abuot is how much I have to pay of about 36 grand after insurance picks up the first part.
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#299029 - 11/28/07 07:33 PM
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36k! Make that boy do chores!
JK, sort of. He should really know that if something is out of whack he needs to talk to you.
BUT, kid/dead aside, glad to hear it. Is surgery something like a local? Like a vasectomy?
I guess he is a kid, so they may knock him out, so that would be my biggest concern with his health.
HONESTLY, glad to know he is ok. Enjoy the holiday season.
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#299039 - 11/28/07 08:29 PM
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Great news!!! 36K??? shit.. that seems like too much. How much does a damn Vasectomy cost??? It's not much more invasive than that. Perhaps it's the general anesthesia that adds to the cost...
Oh yeah...
Hey dude, sorry to hear about your son. I understand how you feel.
Maybe it's this.. Hydrocele
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#299056 - 11/29/07 01:09 AM
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CONGRATULATIONS Chance and son. That's wonderful news!
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#299057 - 11/29/07 01:13 AM
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I've very relieved, Chance, and very glad. (Not about the price, of course.)
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#299066 - 11/29/07 08:39 AM
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Great News. I feel relieved myself, I can't imagine how you must feel.
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#299068 - 11/29/07 09:50 AM
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That's awesome news Chance!!
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#299077 - 11/29/07 12:19 PM
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Fuck the price, insurance covers alot of it, and thats why I pay so god damned much to keep insurance, just incase you need it, and even if I had to pay it all out of pocket, its a small price to pay to have my son.
Relieved isnt even close to how I feel, saying Im relieved is the understatement of the century. Im relieved when I have to shit and got the hershey squirts and make it to the bathroom on time from the car through traffic and into the store or house ro what ever, this is so much more than that.
There were several possabilities when the doc first started setting us up to get it looked into by someone who knew more than him, those past few weeks have been absolute fucking misery, a million phone calls and arguments trying to get insurance companys to move faster and arguing over the need for testing with the bastards, not to mention having to wait so long jsut to see the specialist, its jsut all been more and more tension and stress being dumped on my head and all the not knowing and shit.
Ya knwo the satisfaction and relief you have after a 2 hour sex session and you finally blow your load down a waiting throat and colapse into a messed up bed sweaty and worn out ? thats the same sense of relief Iv had since talking to the specialist but instead of it wearing off and jsut being tired after 20 minutes, Iv kept that same feeling for damned near 20 hours straight now, total contentment.
Of all the possible things ti could of been its the best one, not that thats wonderful or not serious, but compared to what ti could of been im fucking estatic.
a routine and common and simple surgery with out years of additional treatments, no radiation, no chemo, no wonder if hes going to live, no feeling of impending doom.
Iv been sick to my stomache for weeks now, shitty appetite, always upset, and now ? fucking gone, I can eat again, my heartburn is gone, my upset stopmache is over, my fuking brain is able to think about anything but that again.
Not out of the woods yet, with a general thers alwasy chances of bad shit happening, and of course with any surgery the risk of infection is there, but knowing that a guy thats done a couple thousand of these surgerys, and has been specalizing in the treatment of this type of shit for over 30 years is the one doing the surgery, not to metnion his willingness to sit and talk and go over options and explain everything in detail more than once and his mannerisms and confidence, fuck oh dear it helps alot.
Not that all of your well wishes were not comforting, but just not the same as actual medical advice saying its not a real big deal and easy to treat and done with in a matter of a day and some recovery.
So like I said surgery is scheduled for Dec 21, Ill keep this thread updated as we go through it and the recovery in the hopes that maybe some one that has some similar shit going on will find it and nto delay telling someone adn seeking help if thye know how shit goes down once treatment starts.
I jsut couldnt belive that fucking 3 week wait to get into a specialist once we found that there was a problem. I could of gotten him in sooner if I chose to take him to someone else, but if my kids are going to have shit done to them, Im going to take them to the best availible to do it, not just to who ever can see them the soonest.
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#299089 - 11/29/07 02:10 PM
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actually, we went through all of that for the last few weeks, his only words were how was I supposed to know that it wasnt normal?
I suppose he has me there, but when its onyl one that gets huge Id think that would be an alarm, one nuts getting huge and the other is still a normal size.
Not to metnion it was an odd expereince sitting in a dark room watching some guy handle ym sons nutsack in the dark with a pen light held up to it explaining shit to me. very fucking odd indeed.
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#299111 - 11/29/07 03:18 PM
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the flashlight was sorta an unofficial test tha ruled out some expensive testing, but was backed up by the ultra sound. godo way to get out of some test that were nto needed once we were pretty sure that it was all fluid.
save me money, and got me immediate results that the ultra sound confirmed. nto to mention no biopsy, thats going to be done to double check shit out AFTER the surgery isntead of sticking a big needle into his nutsack to extract some and send it off for lab work.
I am forever thankful for the flashlight trick.
I also thougth maybe if someone came acrost this thread looking for answers it was something they could do at home to alleviate some fears or atleast put some more urgency to seeing a pro.
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#301338 - 12/20/07 12:12 PM
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You haven't posted in a while.
Good luck with surgery tomorrow, I hope your not a bundle of nerves!!!
Let us know how the boy does. (I bet he is nervous!!)
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#301844 - 12/26/07 11:02 AM
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Well with out the surgery its been busy, add that in and Iv had nearly no damned time at all, aside form a couple of messages Iv sent through the site, but I was far to trashed to write anything meaningful or understand most of what Id read.
Now I got a bit of time and Im sober... heres an update.
His surgery went very well, aside from the waiting. hours on end in the hospital watching fucking hanna montana and what ever else they had on the fucking disney channel friday afternoon.
Just waiting talking to one doctor then nurses then papers then more docs and nurses and admin and fuck oh dear more nurses! finally an anathesiologist, and then a walk down a hall to say good bye and a trip for coffee and a smoke! we got there at 1, checked in and completed registration then waited in several rooms to speak to too many people before that moment.
once they put the mask on him and told him to count backwards from ten he got to 9 but never started saying 8. Surgery took less than an hour, his first memory is me standing over him asking how he felt. Hed been in recovery for a half hour at that time, mostly awake, talking to his nurse and doesnt recall any of that.
we took him home at 8 pm that night. an hour drive led to several puke episodes in the car, thank god for plastig hospital bags on the freeway!
after he was home the sickness went away, and he vegitated in a recliner or his bed for 3 days. the swelling mostly dropped out bu monday night. Hes nto in any real discomfort, just when he hits the stitches with his finger taking a piss. Hes very concerned about the size of the incision, but since the swellings mostly gone downeven tha has shrunk down.
No sign of any lasting shit, no cancer or lumps or anything to make anyone nervous or fear for future problems.
Now...
most times its treated right off, if your nuts swelling up even if it causes no discomfort or pain, get it dealt with!
they drained a fucking litre of fluid (slightly more actually) from that single testicle! for US people thats one of those fucking big bottles of mountain dew from the local gas station! that bigger than 20 oz but smaller than 2 litre? thats a fucking litre from a single nut!
when he woke up and was talking he wanted to know if we donated that fluid, I know not who the fuck we would donate ti to or why he thought anyone wanted it, but after he was clear of anthestesia, and no longer under the effects of morphine, and between loritabs, he had no memeory of asking about donations, I jsut thoght it was funny.
Even iwth swelling his ball bag was smaller than it was before surgery the day after it was over.
with the swelling going down its currently about a normal size, but stretched out some on teh one side. it being elastic his doctor siad that in a year its going to be a normal size and no loose hanging sack. most of that shrinkage comes in the next 90 days or so and continues for a year.
As of bed timen last night he was up and moving but taking it easy, no lifting or running or jumping or any of that shit, not sore, but not pushing limits either.
Hes doing really well and as of today can even go back to showering again, and thast a good thing, a boy with blood on his nuts and sweat and shit that hasnt had a shower since friday is a bad thing, Im looking forward to him waking up and getting under some hot water with some soap!
I had several messages on this site from people, not tomention well wishes in various threads, and some emails to my personal account, and a few more on the myspace shit.
Thanks to everyone for all the well wishes for my son, hes doing great and will be back playing basketball on his team in 2 to 3 weeks, hes still attending preactice and games in that time, just nto dressing out or playing till then.
by the by, hes 15 in 2 more days, hes 6 foot 1 1/2 and 165 lbs according to hospital measurments, and after surgery walking in the house from the car thought he felt lighter. holding the lire of mountian dew I bought this morning at 7-11 on an early morning ride Id guess thats about 3 lbs lighter, maybe 2 with that fluid gone.
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#301848 - 12/26/07 11:18 AM
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got snow? read what I jsut posted to ya in that other thread ya metnioned that warm sunny shit you live in, fuck oh dear do I got snow? too much already and more falling as I type, fucking blech.
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#301855 - 12/26/07 12:07 PM
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Id kill a nun with my bare hands if it meant it would reaise the temp to 50 here.
my temp gage in the bedroom shows it at 65 in here and 17 outside plus another 2 icnhes since I left this morning.
I didnt go measure, but thats whats on my truck since I parked it this when I got back a bit after 8 am and it was clean before that. cold and shitty man cold and shitty.
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#301878 - 12/26/07 05:35 PM
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I'm very glad it went well, Chance.
A litre of water weighs 2.2 lb. Stuff dissolved in it makes it heavier (in the case of Mountain Dew and similar stuff, a big load of sugar; in the case of testicular fluid, perhaps a bit of protein and salts).
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#301931 - 12/27/07 12:22 PM
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Glad to hear he is doing well.
No ice packs need eh? Just tell him to go tea-bag the snowman?
I hate the snow. YUCK YUCK AND YUCK!!!
It can stay over on the mountains where it belongs.
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#301937 - 12/27/07 01:11 PM
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I'm really glad to hear everything went well with the surgery!!
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#303324 - 01/07/08 04:03 PM
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actually I was in a sportings good store doing some shopping for christmas teh day before his surgery, they makea jock strap that holds ice instead of a cup. it worked really really well. gae support and had a pouch for ice so even during the time he had no ice he still had support, worked out really great. Ill look and see if it had a brand on it or if the package it was in is still around so anyone that might need one for what ever thier reason could obtain one. it wasnta national store, just a local one so its name wouldnt do ya any good for locating it if ya wanted to buy one.
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#303326 - 01/07/08 04:05 PM
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I laughed AT HIM when he said it, he has no memorey of it at all at this point. it was funny god damned it, even if it was my own son fucked out of his head on drugs, he had a hell of an excuse, and funny is funny.
he finds it funny himself as well
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#303328 - 01/07/08 04:09 PM
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I had specific things to say to pepsi and to scotty, so I made posts to them, but to everyone else, I jsut wanted to say thanks for thinking of my son, hes even better now, pissed that hes nto released to play ball yet, and ready to go back to full stupidity of your average teen ager.
Thanks for teh well wishes, and concern, you guys make it somewhat easier to deal with shit that thers no way to make it easier.
and ineligible, that is jsut, fucking odd, it makes my ball bag hurt to think about 2.2 lbs plus some protien and salt added to it pulling it down and away from my body hanging loose, fuck oh dear.
I like my balls tugged on and carrrassed and played with especially if its during a BJ, but the thought of 2 lbs hanging from them, thats jsut, well fucking ouch!
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#305561 - 01/23/08 05:36 PM
Re: maybe it goes here maybe it does'nt
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Just for a wrap up...
its now been 4 weeks since surgery.
I jsut returned home from his check up.
released to full activities and healing better than expected.
even as far as having one nut hang from its being stretched out tht the doc said could be a year before its return to normal, is near normal.
maybe 1/2" of being lower on the right side than the left, and whos gonna notice that? no nuts are exactly the same size on an individual, so fucking noone.
All tests on fluids and removed tissue is negative for any signs of cancer, a clean bill of health and return to regular activities.
That means he can go back to playing ball on the team, but unfortunatly for him it also means he can help me shovel and blow snow, and the storm that dumped fucking near 20" on us monday is due to hit us just as hard again on thrusday.
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#305565 - 01/23/08 05:55 PM
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Good news, Chance!
I bet he'll be pleased not having to have his nutsack regularly inspected by his father, too. 
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#305566 - 01/23/08 06:18 PM
Re: maybe it goes here maybe it does'nt
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actually till today I hadnt seen it since a few days after surgery when he was freaking out over the size of the scar. No nutsack inspections in my house. It is great news though, and hes happy as shit to be able to attend pratice thrusday to do more than memorize plays and watch everyone else, Saturday he will even return to playing in regular games. Im just hoping being on his ass for 4 weeks didnt take too much out of him in the way of stamina, Im sure it took some out in the way of abilities. Shouldnt take too long to get the abilities back up to to his standard level.
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