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#299822 - 12/06/07 04:22 AM
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Kinda needs to be a religion forum on here But anyway. Used to when i was a kid, I beleived in God and Jesus I never thought much about it though, I just went to church, never did much else or thought about it much else. I was just a kid. As i got older and my life turned shitty from almost every angle possible, I stopped beleiving there was a god. Why would God do this to my life if there was one? Plus religion doesnt make sense at all once you really think about it. But anyway I stopped beleiving in God for awhile. And over time my life continued to get worse, and throughout it, i thought things like....maybe God is punishing me for not beleiving in him. Anyway, after my life got in the lowest hole possible, after my cosmetic nose surgery turned out horrible (pics in another thread), which was something i actully sat down and prayed would work out, after my best freind moved, after i lost most of my freinds in school. I lost all faith there could be a God. So anyway, I've prayed various other times after this too. I've asked god things like....well i told him that I don't have any reason to beleive in him, and I don't know if I want to or not, but that if he really is real, i do want to beleive in him, and i prayed for him to somehow help me out with something in my troubles right now, and that if i seem to get some help, it will help me beleive in him. And i told him that if he shows me something that could make me beleive in him, and that following him does lead up to a better life, then I'll have no problem beleiving in him.
But its just that, you know, I can't sit around and beleive in God and waste my time in that, if my life on earth is just gonna be hell anyway. I think if there was a god, he would have blessed me with a much better life. He wouldn't have gave me one that made me doubt his existance.
And another thing, I think i would kill myself right now if not for two things: I want to live a couple more years to see if there's any way possible my life could get better. I want to somehow find out that God is real, or have a reason to beleive, that way before i die, I won't go to hell, if there is such a thing.
Its just....why would God create a life like mine? Why is it there are tons of people out there leading great lives, and he chose mine to be hell.
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#299828 - 12/06/07 08:47 AM
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I see you're 15. I'm 14, also a guy, and I'm going through a lot of crap myself right now. I really need there to be a GOd right now too. (I'll write you privately when I can.)
Maybe we can help each other. I hope so. I need a friend right now.
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#299849 - 12/06/07 11:46 AM
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You live in America? Dude, you're not living in hell. You wanna see hell? Go live in Somalia, the Sudan, go live in the favelas in Brazil, or the ranchos in Venezuela. You live like a king, but since you're clueless to the world around you, you feel like a slave.
The world is not about how narrow your nose is, but if your mind is too narrow then you miss the way of the world.
GOD doesnt only help those who are ugly, he helps those who are hungry. I think they DESERVE to be first in line. Praying for better cosmetic surgery? I think about 2099th in line.
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#299861 - 12/06/07 12:50 PM
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GOD doesnt only help those who are ugly, he helps those who are hungry. I think they DESERVE to be first in line. Praying for better cosmetic surgery? I think about 2099th in line.
If God is God, then He could help everyone at anytime with anything, God chooses not to help us. Can we ever be happy if we are ever sad? Can we truly love God if we never lived without him?
I think pain and suffering are a necessary thing in our world and God allows it all because of our sin. We shall have to live with it until the world ends and sin is destroyed.
But thats just my opinion. I loved to hear someone elses.
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#299892 - 12/06/07 03:42 PM
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I think pain and suffering are a necessary thing in our world and God allows it all because of our sin. We shall have to live with it until the world ends and sin is destroyed.
Yes, because this is a fallen world - a good world gone bad. It is not how God intended or wants. But the Christian view is not that a particular person's pain and suffering is the result of his/her particular sin. The book of Job is written against this idea. And see Luke 13:1-5. In Christianity God does not fix everything when asked (because that would make a very different world, one in which people had no real choices); instead God shares the suffering.
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#299950 - 12/06/07 08:30 PM
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Well, im 17, i just havent changed my signiture in 2 years. But i do think that God should help out with whatever problem we're going through. Clearly in america people aren't going through the same problems as people in Africa. Personally if it were my choice ide live in a land that wasnt as "appearance-based" as america, but that isnt my fault, so I'm trying to live a happy, normal life that most people live in america. And everyone has their certian-steps to that i think. But Yeah, i could go to africa and live like a king. But here i live like a loner, I'm sure there are people over in Africa happier than me just because of the statuses America has created. Heck, if daily life things like food, clothing, and that stuff could make me truly happy and get me out of depression rather than worrying about my apparance, I'de have rather been born in some other country. But honestly this is America, and no one cares how much food you have. Most people in society HAVE to be social to be happy. It's all a part of finding your soul mate, settling down, and having a normal life. Most really ugly people can't acheive that, and even if they do, usually they still arent happy.
Personally I'de have love to be born in England about 1000 years ago or so. No one cared about appearance then, it was just if you were like a brave knight or something. But you know, most societies have always had their veiws on what's good about appearance. 1,000 years ago, if you were a knight in shining armor, you were a hottie. 200 years ago, if you were a rich man in a tux you were a hottie 60 years ago, if you greased your hair back you were a hottie 20 years ago, mullets now = no one cares what your style is cuz they'rs so many as long as your face is hot
Now's the toughest time to live in too. Your job, especially if you want one in music or acting, your gf/bf, your success in school, and how loved you are by people all depends on your looks. And it doesn't take more than a look on your tv or in some high school to tell you that.
And with God, i think that God should help you out on what you pray on. I think that if you pray that all turns out well with a major surgery, he shouldn't ruin it by making it go wrong. Why would he want to do that? Maybe if i was truly happy with my life, then i could stop worrying about myself and worry more about others like Africa, wouldn't god want that?
So like, you know, one main reason i dont beleive in god is because no matter how many chances and opportunities i have in life, they always fail. God could give me one chance that falls through and life shouldn't be a living hell if you want to beleive in him. Thats probably why some countries are suffering. They don't beleive in god do they? Seems like all the well off countries do.
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#299963 - 12/06/07 09:29 PM
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> But honestly this is America, and no one cares how much food you have.
I'm an american citizen, and I care how much food I have. Maybe once you go hungry for a few days because you can't afford food, you'll agree with me. You never know what you have until it's gone.
> Most people in society HAVE to be social to be happy.
I don't know if it's a requirment, but it certainly helps. Now who said you had to be hot to be social?
> It's all a part of finding your soul mate, settling down, and having a normal life.
Says who?
> Most really ugly people can't acheive that, and even if they do, usually they still arent happy.
Now that's just a generalization. You're saying that in order to be happy, you have to good looking. You really think all happy people are good looking? I'd say about 75% of America is unahppy if that were true.
> And it doesn't take more than a look on your tv or in some high school to tell you that.
Those are THE two worst examples you could've given. EVERYTHING in high school is about being accepted and fitting in. TV is fake, period. Trust me, once you're out of high school, you'll actually start seeing MATURE people who won't care how you look.
> Why would he want to do that?
Maybe God is trying to tell you that your nose is fine, and you shouldn't try to change your nose?
> They don't beleive in god do they?
Are you kidding me? EVERY country, no matter how rich or poor, has their own God they worship. Even Africa (which is a continent, but you know what I mean).
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#300172 - 12/08/07 10:28 PM
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Whats up dude? I am about 10 years older than you, but I know where your comming from. You are in one of the hardest times of your life psychologically. I haven't signed on here in a VERY long time, but I am trying to bring myself out of a slump myself, so I figured I would see whats going on in here.
There is probably a reason why there isnt a religious forum. I think it might have something to do with the large amounts of extremely insane people following one of the abrahamic religions. They tend to get verbally and physically violent. NOT ALL OF THEM, but enough. I saw a really funny shirt that said "organised religion, the first weapon of mass destruction!"
First off, I don't believe in God. I use to pray ALLLLLL the time and amazingly things actually happened for me, not all of them, but some. Trust me your life will get better, as long as you make good decisions and take care of yourself.
I don't believe in hell either. That is just a stigma branded into the human thought process long ago to stop us from doing bad. I don't really think organised religions are a bad thing because they influence a lot of people to do good too!
Alright, well one thing I have noticed is this. Did you ever notice that most of the time the people that are for the most part perfect physically have the personality of a gerbal? Now, all those people who are socially the coolest things since sliced bread, will most the time turn out to be complete failures. What doesn't kill you will only make you stronger!
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#300231 - 12/09/07 08:00 PM
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And over time my life continued to get worse, and throughout it, i thought things like....maybe God is punishing me for not beleiving in him.
And people wonder why I hate the entire concept of gods...
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#300232 - 12/09/07 08:02 PM
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> And it doesn't take more than a look on your tv or in some high school to tell you that.
Those are THE two worst examples you could've given. EVERYTHING in high school is about being accepted and fitting in. TV is fake, period. Trust me, once you're out of high school, you'll actually start seeing MATURE people who won't care how you look.
And also, many people in high school get their beliefs about social structures and general life from TV. So you've basically got bullshit being fuelled by bullshit.
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#300257 - 12/10/07 01:07 AM
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Well still, after i get uot of high school, i still wanna look more like how i wanna look. No one gets that. I could be the only person left on earth, and if i still think im ugly, ill be depressed about it. Yes, i do want the benefits that come along with being beautiful, but thats no where near the reason i want to look beautiful/hot whatever. I just want to have a good time with my life. And i feel like looking good is the only way im going to do that. Cuz no matter what i do, i feel like im ugly and i look stupid. And I just want to be comfortable with my looks so that i can be proud, hold my head up high, and do life.
I just explain all the "everyone else judges me" thing becuase it's a reason that i know im ugly. Being or not being around people isnt gonna change how i think of my looks. But beleive me though, i'll be around people my whole life. I'm going to sing when i get out of high school, and i'll be living on the streets before i give that up. Im going to do whatever it takes to make that dream come true because its all i have. But with that, getting up on stage, and pictures and stuff like that ill need to be comfortable in my own skin, and thats not going to happen till my nose doesn't look so much like a fucking santa nose. Because if my singing dream comes true, it's gonna require good looks. Especially for the type of music im going to sing. It's just, looking ugly as fuck, and looking normally attractive means the difference for me between sitting back hating life and never experiancing anything or going out there, being happy, making my dreams come true, and accepting that my life was good when i die.
I've been trying to get over my looks my entire life but with my parents beleiving depression meds are drugs, its kinda hard. (Even my best freind talked to my mom about letting me have depression meds and she said "oh i dont think my son needs to be doped up on drugs")
So you know people, im done arguing with everyone, and im pissy tonight. im TIRED of seeing beautiful people, and me looking like shit, and its even tougher on me because im BI and i have that thing where guys can be hot to me, and when i see a guy that i think is hot, and i look like shit compared to him, it makes me feel like SHIT. Just imagine guys or girls, if you felt you looked worse THAN your bf/gf. It would suck.
And for my life, I plan on being with a GUY, so to really do that, i need to look good where i wont feel like shit compared to my bf. I've had chances with guys before and they all failed because i felt i was so ugly compared to them that everytime ide talk to them ide cry. JUST IM SICK OF IT.
I Want to feel normal for a change.....I want to feel confident, and i just want to find someone to be with, and is that so much to ask? everyone in the world wants the same, but my standards are too high to be with some ugly fat guy. I want to be with someone hot and exiting, and beleive me my standards arent that high, but i just want someone hot in their own way, and always feel like shit cuz i just dont think im hot even in a small way.
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#300347 - 12/10/07 05:59 PM
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A relationship isn't a competition about looks, Someone young. How could a relationship thrive like that? All looks fade.
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#300385 - 12/10/07 10:41 PM
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Its not a competition, but i want to feel somewhat equal to who I'm with, I don't want to be in a relationship where my bf's really hot and im really ugly. It would make me feel bad.
That's like my favorite comedian Sharolaid. He's like this drag queen or whatever but he does it for comedy for his videos, but in real life he is gay, and he has a ugly, fat, 30 or 40 year old bf, and he's 22, and hot ide say. It's worked out for them since they've been together, but Sharolaid always gets alotta comments on why he has such a ugly boyfreind. And personally I think that'd happen to me, and I can't put up with something like that.
I had a guy once who lived out of state that i got close to and he told me that "he didnt think most people would think im hot but he thought i was really hot in my own way" I just can't stand comments like that I want to be a general standard of hot that would attract alot of people. I want to look good where at least someone would randomly see me and be like "dang he's cute i wanna talk to him"
And there's alotta competition in the gay world, cuz there's not alot of gays in one town, and gays have a habit of being ugly, (at least thats how it is around here) so its pretty tough getting with someone who is decent if your not. And the reason why i want a hot guy is cuz at least around here, the hot gays/bis are the only ones that act decently normal like me, and all the ugly ones act like fagots and thats not my thing.
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#300400 - 12/11/07 12:30 AM
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Well I dunno what else to tell you. I hope someday you get over this need to be "hot". I understand you want it for yourself, but it seems obvious to me that you want it more for other people. There's other ways to be accepted than just being hot.
So I hope one day you realize that looks don't make or break your life.
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#300445 - 12/11/07 11:15 AM
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And there's alotta competition in the gay world, cuz there's not alot of gays in one town, and gays have a habit of being ugly, (at least thats how it is around here) so its pretty tough getting with someone who is decent if your not. And the reason why i want a hot guy is cuz at least around here, the hot gays/bis are the only ones that act decently normal like me, and all the ugly ones act like fagots and thats not my thing.
SOO much wrong with that paragraph lol. "gays" have a habit of being ugly? You're right might just be in your area, but homosexuals are like straight people, they are a mix of good looking and ugly.
And the hot ones are the only ones that act normal?? Wow... in my experience the overly attractive ones are usually the ones who are stuck on themselves. Those are the ones I cannot stand to be around because it's always "me, me, me"... gets old fast. Personally give me a grounded person regardless of looks and you'll win me over a hell of a lot faster.
And how do "Faggots" act? LoL. That's just silly coming from a gay/bi person like yourself. Classing the people you identify yourself with, with homophobic stereotyping probably isn't in your best interest.
Now if you mean you prefer men who are more straight acting, than I can relate. Men who are on the feminine side don't do anything for me sexually, but I can certainly be friends with them.
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#300900 - 12/15/07 11:07 PM
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I mean faggots like gays who cheerlead and not for the reason straight guys do. (if you know what i mean lol) And gays who are like "OMG these shoes are SO fabulous at aeropostle."
And there isn't really any other way to get alot of "chances" at finding a bf/gf if your not really attractive, sorry. Everyone says ill "eventually" find someone, but i want to be hot where i have more chances than just "eventually" like waiting till im 25 to find my first real gf/bf. I don't want that.
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#300901 - 12/15/07 11:21 PM
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But you are attractive.
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#300988 - 12/17/07 09:10 AM
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I mean faggots like gays who cheerlead and not for the reason straight guys do. (if you know what i mean lol)
Nope have no clue what you mean, sorry. I would think whether straight or gay you'd be doing cheerleading for the same reasons.
And gays who are like "OMG these shoes are SO fabulous at aeropostle."
Okay so you don't like the more feminine guys, that Ic an understand. Everyone has a different taste in the people they are attracted to.
And there isn't really any other way to get alot of "chances" at finding a bf/gf if your not really attractive, sorry.
First off you are attractive and the sooner you start seeing that the better your chances are for finding a gf/bf. Confidence is important for most people.
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#300990 - 12/17/07 10:03 AM
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Its just....why would God create a life like mine? Why is it there are tons of people out there leading great lives, and he chose mine to be hell.
There's just no intelligent way to respond to this.
One day, you will realize these problems of yours are infinitely petty compared to the problems faced by the majority of the world's population.
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#301546 - 12/22/07 03:35 PM
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I'm tired of hearing about the rest of the world. Untill you convince every person in America to think about the world's problems, it's not gonna help me any cuz everyone else is still gonna be stuck up. Plus tho, America, Canada, Europe, Australia, and parts of Asia and South America are all wealthy countries. Africa, most of Asia, Russia, and South America are the poor places.
But you want to know something? I'de rather be dirt poor and look decent where i can live a normal life than be rich and ugly. Because you know what? I know people in my school who are dirt poor but they're hot as fuck and they get tons of attention and are pretty happy people.
And one more thing about the rest of the world, even in like tribes and stuff, attractivness matters too. In those tribes and places like that, they all have their standards. In some tribes, attractiveness may depend on how big of a peircing you have, or how many animals you've hunted. No matter where you go in the world, or how poor people get, always people are trying to be attractive as possible to find mates. Even animals do it. Animals will build the biggest nest, or fluff their feathers out the biggest, or make the biggest growl, or w/e they can to make sure their "the most attractive" to a female. And humans are no different.
Every region has its form of whats attractive and in america, the most important thing is to have a nice face. End of story.
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#301547 - 12/22/07 03:43 PM
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And another reason i can garuntee starving people over in africa are trying to be attractive to the opposite sex too, is becuse dont you think those people agree too that when life is hell, its better to have someone to hold?
Now of coarse their standards of attractive might not be as high, what they find attractive may be something as simple as having a peircing on your face or something, or braids in your hair, but im sure if thats the case, then alotta people over there have peircings and braids. Its just that america has higher standards.
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#301548 - 12/22/07 03:47 PM
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oh and if someone wants to bring up the poor people in the middle east. Lol i saw once where based on population and stuff, there's a country in the middle east where plastic surgery is performed more than anywhere in the world, because the wemon there don't get to show anything but their face, they have to cover their whole boddies in cloth, so they try to have the best faces possible. (its even worse than america over there on beauty).
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#301620 - 12/23/07 03:28 AM
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Like alotta girls at my school like really ugly guys, but its all for one reason. Those guys ALWAYS look bad-ass. all the ones that are liked are like 6 foot tall and they just have that "hardcore i just been to a metal concert" look.....and thats something i simply don't have....i have a very small body so its pretty much that im just like those wemon in the middle east, i have nothing to show off but my face.
but i was talking on the phone other night to a girl i really like, and me and her are good freinds, but she only likes "hardcore" guys. Well even if i didnt get with her, ide liek to "do" something with her cuz she's that type. But I hinted at it about her, and she kept saying "well i dont think of you that way" or "we're too good of freinds" or "you never looked like the type of person who'd be interested in sex" (in other words shes saying shes not intrested in haing sex with me) and those results is what every girl ive ever tried to do anything with says to me. even if me and her barely know each other + plus she fucks all her other best freinds.
I seriously cannot find anyone, and with the girls in my school, the standards arented that high. I mean there's this black kid in my class who looks like Urcle and Norbit combined, and even HE got layed. Seriously wtf?
Also, there's this girl im freinds with, who is the school whore. Every single guy i know who's my freind, she's fucked them, and they say its true, and she also says its true. She has sex with people during pep rallys even. But im the ONLY guy who's ever been refused by her, and all the guys in school make fun of me for it. And ive tried more than once to do stuff with her.
Like once she was to me like "im having a bad day....this weelend ima babysit some kids at these other people's house but im going to make the kids spend the night with their freinds, so i'll be there by myself, and ive been asking guys all day if they wanna come over when im there and stay the night, but no one will.."
and i was like "well im not busy this weekend" and you know what she said? she said (appearantly forgetting all the sudden what she told me) "well im babysitting this weekend so i guess we can't hang out"......wtf???
But yeah about the pretty on the inside/outside thing. If your nice on the inside, it gets you "just freinds" who never go out with you and plain out refuse and insult you if you hint at it, or even if you hint at a one night stand. Being nice on the outside gives you great freinds, lots of attention, a chance with alot of girls, and a good fuck whenever you need it, plus you get invited to partys and mess ciz you look cool, and basically you get a great life. And even if your a asshole, people still beleive your "nice" Like my best friend, he's a asshole, but somehow people think he's nicer than me, just cuz his attention whores say so.
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#301634 - 12/23/07 11:18 AM
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Well, looks to me like you got it all figured out. Seems like you'll never ever do anything with a girl.
Seriously, though, with that attitude of yours, how do you expect to get a girlfriend? And I'm starting to think the only reason you want a girlfriend is so you can fuck somebody.
Why would you want to fuck the girl that's been passed aruodn the school? Does that make you cool?
I will never understand this need to have sex to fit in =/
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#302675 - 01/03/08 08:40 PM
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you never looked like the type of person who'd be interested in sex" "What do i look like an alien to you?! Of course i'm interested in sex!"
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#302686 - 01/03/08 09:17 PM
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If all you're looking for is a girlfriend, then that's all you'll think about when you get one.
Girls don't dig being titles or trophies.
Lay back and play the field a little. If a girl rejects you, there's more to choose from. Don't let it worry you, some girls just aren't worth your time.
Don't play into the "I must worship Women" trap. Just be decently nice and be yourself. Don't adjust any of your normal routine for a girl you aren't even committed too.
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#305816 - 01/26/08 10:09 PM
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Religion is a unrelenting subject. I'm Muslim and from what I've learned, religion kind of teaches what one can do for God, not what God can do for you. So basically, everything you do, you must do it yourself and not rely on anything else. You can't sit there and think that some external force is going to dictate your life correctly. If there was such a thing, there wouldn't be world hunger, murders or anything cruel in the world nor would there be overnight millionaires, inventions or anything spectacular/positive in the world either. The reason why these things occur in the world is because of people themselves.
While I do beleive that there is some kind of "God" or creator, I think he/she/it just watches over. If an analogy is needed, it would be like playing The Sims without ever forcing anybody to do something. In my opinion, religion was created for motivation; it's like a fad/gang/etc, a group with set rules to follow by, but in this case the rules are made to add a positive way of living life. Who knows if all those prophets like Jesus, Muhammad or Moses were actually prophets or just fakers because I'm pretty sure humans back then were no different genetically than humans now, so who is to say that humans couldn't have lied back then. But it isn't like we need a religion to become something. There are plenty of non-religious people and even atheists who live life to the fullest.
So my point is this: Don't think that religion/"God" will do something for you. Just use your religion's positive information to motivate your life such as don't commit adultery and just live life the way you want. Go to religious services once in a while, it has some meditation-like effects and you can get confidence from the words of religion to help you get back on track.
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#313354 - 04/05/08 03:47 PM
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@thesolo
i really like your veiw on things...ive honestly always thought the muslim religion seemed to make alot more sense than christianity, and it really does seem like god only "watches over"...because my best friend...who has like the perfect life...people always telling him he's hot, a beautiful gf who has undying love for him, her parents always giving him free money because "he looks like someone who should have a successful future" (in other words he's so hot that grown ups think it too and give him money) and he lives with his girlfriends family for free, cuz he moved outt his house, and he loves his life, and it really is great, and its sad that the only thing he has to worry about is getting a job everynow and then, not because he has to pay bills or anything, becuase he doesn't, he said he just "feels depressed if he doesnt work somewhere because he feels lazy" and its like wtf...yeah its good not to be lazy, but that is the ONLy thing that depresses him and he gets REALLY depressed about it, and im like wtf its ok to want a job but you have such a great life that you dont really even need one.
And he's aethist....but why his life is so great, and i can connect every point to this, is becaise he's hot in a general standard.
His gf who has undying love for him, who's responsible for giving him confidence, breaking his virginity, giving him a place to live, and being the love of his life that causes him to be happy, only "started taking to him" because she thought he was hot. Although she said that over time, she started to love him for his personalit, she said she would not have started talking to him if he was really ugly, and thats the same with every girl, unless they are insanely ugly or preppy, 2 things i wont go for.
My parents, his gf's parents, and his best friend's parents give him free money and other things, not because he needs them, just because he asks, and they all feel "so" sorry for him if he doesnt have 1 thing that he wants, just because everyone feels so sorry for hot people who are sad, but no one ever cares about ugly people who are sad. people just ignore their wants and needs. my parents even care about my best freind more than me... its just so fucked up....whenever he asks for money and mess, people say no, and all he does is put on a sad puupy face, and people give in...and i do the same thing and it never works for me, even if what i want is a serious issue...and his gf, he treats her like shit, and when she rarely gets mad, all he does is touch her and hug her and act "sexual" and all the sudden she falls into his looks and gets over it...its so gay...
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#313377 - 04/05/08 05:51 PM
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and its sad that the only thing he has to worry about is getting a job everynow and then, not because he has to pay bills or anything, becuase he doesn't, he said he just "feels depressed if he doesnt work somewhere because he feels lazy" and its like wtf...yeah its good not to be lazy, but that is the ONLy thing that depresses him and he gets REALLY depressed about it, and im like wtf its ok to want a job but you have such a great life that you dont really even need one. Again, please don't compare your depression to anyone elses. You're trying to find a way to make your friend seem like he doesn't (or even shouldn't) have a vaild reason to be depressed while you do. His reasons for being depressed has no less value than yours and vice versa. We all have reasons to be depressed, even if it doesn't make sense to you.
I'm similar. If I'm not working or going to school, I feel like my life has no meaning. Like, I'm having the easy life, but I'm not doing anything to deserve it. Yes, there are times when I'm lazy as fuck, but eventually that feeling comes along and I don't like it.
Even the people who have the biggest smiles may have something that makes them depressed. The key is how we carry ourselves. (I'm sure the others have been telling you this)
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#313422 - 04/06/08 04:03 PM
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In contrast, when I'm at school I feel pretty meaningless. I like to work because I like to see things happen. When I'm at school, I feel like I'm wasting my time, listening to someone talk, same schedule every day, day in day out, so that a number between 0 and 100% will show up on my computer. Very unfulfilling.
The school system failed me I think. Getting an A has never meant much.
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#313429 - 04/06/08 04:41 PM
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Yup, the reason why I don't like going to school. There are times when I get that empty feeling about it. But what can I do? I just gotta keep going.
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#313460 - 04/07/08 03:46 AM
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I actually do think people who can't find a gf/bf because of reasons they were born with have a better reason to be depressed than people who get fired from their job because they are lazy and then sulk about it.
The main point of life is to find a mate and reproduce. The main point in life isn't to work the hardest you can. Most people are happy as long as they have someone to share love with and make enough money to live comfortably, and while your a kid, you have no reason to work really unless its at school.
So yeah. There's pretty much no reason anyone can't find a job unless they're lazy, but theres plenty of reasons that people can't find gfs/bfs because of things they can't help. SO yeah. Being ugly to the point you can't find a girlfriend i think is much worse than not working because your lazy.
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#313462 - 04/07/08 03:59 AM
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I actually do think people who can't find a gf/bf because of reasons they were born with have a better reason to be depressed than people who get fired from their job because they are lazy and then sulk about it. I hope someday soon, you'll realize that's not true at all.
The main point of life is to find a mate and reproduce. The main point in life isn't to work the hardest you can. Most people are happy as long as they have someone to share love with and make enough money to live comfortably, and while your a kid, you have no reason to work really unless its at school. That's acutally a matter of opinion. I can assure you there's single people out there who are much happier being single, than married or with somone. And the meaning of life has no universal definition. It varies from person to person. To me, the point in life isn't just to have kids. To me, there's much more than that.
There's pretty much no reason anyone can't find a job unless they're lazy, but theres plenty of reasons that people can't find gfs/bfs because of things they can't help. You can very much have a mate. It doesn't matter how you look. You just need to change your attitude. Although, I know that's a lot easier said than done.
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#313486 - 04/07/08 10:34 AM
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How about people who are not working because the company shut down and moved to mexico for cheap labor and left them high and dry after 15 years on the job and no retirement or income and a fucking house payment and kids to deal with? How about the fact that we are in a recession and jobs are hard to come by? How about that hb-1 visa that fucks a lot of qualified schooled people out of jobs because the immigrants form india are willing to work for far far less than the americans and they get the jobs ? How about handicapped people that cant perform jobs that pay shit because some drunk fucking bastard hit them with their car and took away their chance to perform the job they had been and now cant make shit for money because they cant perform the work they are trained in? There are hundreds of situations that keep people from working and they are not just fucking lazy. Ill take no fucking Gf over no income any day of the week.
Someone young, hmmmm... your name sums it up, young, uneducated,no life experience, no idea o how the world works or what it takes to make it. Your response is the biggest pile of shit Iv seen since some idiot suggested drinking olive oil prevents aids when ya suck dick.
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