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#300622 - 12/12/07 10:27 PM Weed/Marijuana
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Alright, so I'm 16, and I've kind of/not fallen into the wrong crowd, and there is ALOT of pressure for me to smoke marijuana. Alright my big question is. what are the effects of this to your body ETC... AND is it possible to smoke it once or twice a month and not be addicted?
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#300623 - 12/12/07 10:28 PM Re: Weed/Marijuana [Re: Technichal]
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This is kind of urgent BTW. Any help is appreciated.
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#300624 - 12/12/07 10:41 PM Re: Weed/Marijuana [Re: Technichal]
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Most people don't find it addicting, though a few do. Something to remember is that the compounds stay in your body fat for many weeks, and may be detected in a urine drugs test six weeks or more after you've used it.

But it's more important, not just for this but in many other parts of life, to be able to stand up for yourself and do what you choose to do, regardless of peer pressure.

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#300625 - 12/12/07 10:43 PM Re: Weed/Marijuana [Re: Technichal]
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Well,
I'm 16 too,
and I understand the pressure.


Marijuana doesn't have tar like cigarettes, so it isn't nearly as bad for your lungs. It can make your throat sore short term and make your throat raspy. It won't kill you unless you go driving high or something...

Don't do it if you don't want to, but it can't hurt to try it once and see how you feel about it.
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#300627 - 12/12/07 10:49 PM Re: Weed/Marijuana [Re: Ineligible]
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Alright, so if its not addictive, would it be harmful if I did it once every few weeks or once a month?
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#300628 - 12/12/07 11:00 PM Re: Weed/Marijuana [Re: Technichal]
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I've got friends who do that,
I don't think you have too much to worry about.
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#300631 - 12/12/07 11:51 PM Re: Weed/Marijuana [Re: Felix 12]
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How can I tell if its laced with like meth or something? cant they inejct shit into the leaves so its more addictive?
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#300635 - 12/13/07 12:03 AM Re: Weed/Marijuana [Re: ]
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I'm not tryign to question you... But I know of a kid who smoked pot for the first time and it was laced with some sort of shit, and now hes braind damaged.
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#300636 - 12/13/07 12:21 AM Re: Weed/Marijuana [Re: Technichal]
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Put it this way: There's a 1 in 1,000,000 chance that it'laced with anything.

Of course these kids you're hanging out with are also involved in the meth scene and all that, then I suppose the chances are greater.

And btw, unless you know this kid personally, I wouldn't believe it if I were you.

But about your question... yes, you can smoke every now and then and not get addicted. Some people find it mentally addicting, but most don't. Physically addicting, again 1 in a million.

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#300641 - 12/13/07 04:17 AM Re: Weed/Marijuana [Re: Felix 12]
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Marijuana doesn't have tar like cigarettes

Actually it does. Practically anything that is smoked will produce carcinogenic tar.

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#300650 - 12/13/07 08:57 AM Re: Weed/Marijuana [Re: Ineligible]
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The difference between Cannabis smoke and Cigarette smoke is that cigarette smoke attacks the smaller areas of the lungs making illnesses a lot harder to treat and basically does much more damage as the smaller areas are more vulnerable and weaker.
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#300725 - 12/14/07 01:35 AM Re: Weed/Marijuana [Re: Ineligible]
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 Originally Posted By: Ineligible
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Marijuana doesn't have tar like cigarettes

Actually it does. Practically anything that is smoked will produce carcinogenic tar.


Isn't everyone taught in school that Marijuana has twice as much tar in it than Cigarettes??
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#300742 - 12/14/07 09:45 AM Re: Weed/Marijuana [Re: Emo_Boy]
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1 joint = 4 cigs I think it was...
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#300768 - 12/14/07 03:24 PM Re: Weed/Marijuana [Re: StillSearching]
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Not only that, but you inhale much deeper and hold it in longer.
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#300773 - 12/14/07 05:05 PM Re: Weed/Marijuana [Re: Sexpert]
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That's true, but overall, you get less tar from weed than you get from cigarettes.

Most people don't smoke just 4 cigarettes.

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#300842 - 12/15/07 01:42 PM Re: Weed/Marijuana [Re: StillSearching]
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I've been smoking weed for about 4 years, maybe once a month or so. There was a period of time when I smoked a few times a week for a couple months, but I rarely do it anymore. My point is that I've smoked a lot of weed and I have never ever smoked laced pot. The only time that I was even offered laced pot my dealer offered it to me. He straight up said, I have some stuff laced with .... do you want it? (can't remember what it was laced with). He was even going to charge me more for it because it was laced, so I knew that it wasn't straight marijuana.

So my overall point is, if you're worried about getting some laced stuff talk to your friends or whoever you're buying from. I've smoked well over 150 times and I have never ever been tricked into smoking laced stuff. The chances of you getting laced stuff is very very slim.


Oh, and the addiction part.... For me its a definite NO. Like I said, basically for a month I was a huge pothead during august a year back. Since it was the summer and I had nothing to do, I pretty much smoked every day. When school started up, I stopped immediately. I had no physical need to smoke. I just remember being surprised that I didn't really want to smoke after doing it so much.


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#300845 - 12/15/07 02:48 PM Re: Weed/Marijuana [Re: pgh1212]
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> I've smoked well over 150 times

You make it sound like that's a lot. It's really not.

Anyway, the point still is: The chances of anybody smoking weed laced with anything is very close to 0.

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#300871 - 12/15/07 08:58 PM Re: Weed/Marijuana [Re: StillSearching]
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 Originally Posted By: StillSearching
> I've smoked well over 150 times

You make it sound like that's a lot. It's really not.

Anyway, the point still is: The chances of anybody smoking weed laced with anything is very close to 0.


Are you trying to tell us that your a huge pothead or something? How many times would you say is a lot? All depends on what you think is a lot. I wouldn't call myself a stoner at all(and i wouldn't want to be called one either), and I'm not even trying to make it seem like I smoke a lot.

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#300908 - 12/16/07 02:37 AM Re: Weed/Marijuana [Re: pgh1212]
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Just saying, smoking ~150 times doesn't mean you can say that weed isn't laced with anything.
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#300924 - 12/16/07 12:31 PM Re: Weed/Marijuana [Re: ]
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I just had this image of you knocking their heads together, Helms.

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#300927 - 12/16/07 04:19 PM Re: Weed/Marijuana [Re: ]
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I don't mind being a stoner
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#300929 - 12/16/07 04:21 PM Re: Weed/Marijuana [Re: StillSearching]
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 Originally Posted By: StillSearching
Just saying, smoking ~150 times doesn't mean you can say that weed isn't laced with anything.



Maybe its not a lot to you, but it is for me. Are you one of those daily smokers?

A few of my brothers friends in their mid-early 20's have smoked daily since they were like 15, and I just talked to them. Not a single one of them have encountered laced stuff without being aware of it. Anyway its actually pretty surprising because 3 of the guys are married, and they all graduated from college and have great jobs making over 40k a year. I guess it all depends on the person whether or not it can fuck your life up.

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#300930 - 12/16/07 04:26 PM Re: Weed/Marijuana [Re: pgh1212]
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> Are you one of those daily smokers?

When I can, yes. Haven't smoked in over a month because I'm not at my house anymore, though. But now is probably the first time I could pass a piss test in a very long time.

> I guess it all depends on the person whether or not it can fuck your life up.

I agree. To some people weed is mentally addicting, and they let it take over their lives.

I don't let it control my life and some days when I can't smoke, it's not a big deal. When I came here from my own place (where Icould smoke everyday) I just stopped smoking (and I stopped smoking cigs as well) and I haven't had any cravings or anything like that (that includes cigs)

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#301050 - 12/17/07 08:39 PM Re: Weed/Marijuana [Re: Technichal]
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ok, im 16 also, i play soccer, get good grades in school and have a job... this passed summer i smoked so much pot after i foud out that my court case had been dropped ,no need to explain wehat it was for" prolly a 20 bag a day for about 2 months played soccer during those months for a park team. when school started i got on the highschools soccer team. stopped smoking weed right then. cuz i knew they drug tested. i still go to parties and drink and shit but i dotn smoke weed even though its right there. so i doubt u'll get addicted.

the most addicting thing ive ever tried was ecstasy :| wont ever do it again.

hope this helped. smoke a blunt for meee
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#301052 - 12/17/07 08:49 PM Re: Weed/Marijuana [Re: Technichal]
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To help you out, I'll just copy and paste a post I made a few months ago.
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Originally posted 26/9/07

 Originally Posted By: Grvtykllr
*Mostly harmelss.
it is a proven fact bobbo that one joint is equal damage wise to about 10 ciggys. thats not harmelss.


Although yes, I should have said mostly harmless, but one joint does not equal damage wise to 10 cigarettes. This was a myth created by the misrepresentation of studies performed by Dr. Donald Tashkin of the University of California, Los Angeles. He found that daily pot smokers seemed to experience a "mild but significant" increase in airflow resistance in the large airways compared to those seen in persons smoking 16 cigarettes per day.[1]

What the people who push this myth fail to mention is that the study involved many other tests, most of which Cannabis outperformed tobacco. The more widely accepted estimate is that marijuana smokers consume four times as much carcinogenic tar as cigarettes smokers per weight smoked.[2] But the average joint only contains about 0.4 grams of marijuana, less than half the weight of a cigarette, so 1 joint is really only equal to about 2 cigarettes in terms of carcinogenic tar.

Although its hard to compare tobacco and cannabis as they attack different parts of the lungs. While pot goes for the larger airways, tobacco tends to penetrate to the smaller, peripheral passageways of the lungs causing more damage such as emphysema.[3]

Studies of marijuana have shown that it has the capability to cause lung cancer but there has of yet been 0 cases. The biggest health risk of marijuana is injury, usually caused by accidents as a result of the effects of pot (degradation of short-term memory, concentration, judgement, and coordination at complex tasks including driving).[4]

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1 - D. Tashkin, Respiratory Status of 74 Habitual Marijuana Smokers, Chest 78 #5: 699-706 (Nov. 1980)
2 - T-C. Wu, D. Tashkin, B. Djahed and J.E. Rose, Pulmonary hazards of smoking marijuana as compared with tobacco, New England Journal of Medicine 318: 347-51 (1988)
3 - D. Tashkin et al, Effects of Habitual Use of Marijuana and/or Cocaine on the Lung, loc.cit.
4 - Herbert Moskowitz, Marihuana and Driving, Accident Analysis and Prevention 17#4: 323-45 (1985)
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#307390 - 02/10/08 01:32 AM Re: Weed/Marijuana [Re: bobalicious]
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i have been smoking marijuana regularly for the last almost six years... wow crazy when i think about it like that. anyways, there is not one instance i can think of where i smoked laced stuff. my advice is to try it in a very comfortable environment with people you trust. if you don't like it then that's that and you dont have to smoke it anymore, but if you do just be aware that you have other priorities in life and it should in no way take precident. and most of all... have fun!!
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#319591 - 06/08/08 05:54 AM Re: Weed/Marijuana [Re: Technichal]
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According to SAMHSA (the United States Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration), about 5% of people who use marijuana become dependent on it. But that figure is somewhat misleading, as only a minority of people who become dependent on it experience any major consequences (not counting jail, mind you).

The only remotely conclusively proven negative effects of pot are on the lungs. Whoever said marijuana doesn't have tar is wrong, pot actually has MORE tar in it than cigarettes do. It's pretty well documented that chronic pot smokers are at greater risk for chronic bronchitis, emphysema, and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease. It should be noted that pot does NOT cause cancer, as several major recent studies have shown.

Some researchers claim that pot can raise one's risk of certain mental illnesses, but most of the research suggests that mental illness precedes pot use and not the other way round. In fact, there's some evidence that marijuana can help treat certain mental illnesses, particularly bipolar disorder and major depressive disorder.

Having been a chronic pot smoker myself for about the past 15 years, I can tell you from my personal experience, the only negative effect pot has had on me has been on my wallet \:\)


All that being said though, some people just don't like the effects of pot... some people find it makes them anxious and paranoid. And it does negatively affect memory and cognitive processes in the short term, although these effects disappear shortly after use.
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#320842 - 06/20/08 05:54 PM Re: Weed/Marijuana [Re: justsayknow]
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 Originally Posted By: justsayknow
The only remotely conclusively proven negative effects of pot are on the lungs. Whoever said marijuana doesn't have tar is wrong, pot actually has MORE tar in it than cigarettes do. It's pretty well documented that chronic pot smokers are at greater risk for chronic bronchitis, emphysema, and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease. It should be noted that pot does NOT cause cancer, as several major recent studies have shown.


One correction and one note to be made, both of which I have explained in my post above.

The note: Although marijuana does contain more tar, less marijuana is used in a joint than tobacco is used in a cigarette, not to mention that marijuana is rarely as regular a habit as cigarette smoking.

The correction: Marijuana does not effect the smaller areas of the lungs and as such does not cause emphysema. Because of this, lung damage caused by marijuana smoking is more easily treated than damage caused by cigarette smoking.
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#322304 - 07/08/08 02:05 PM Re: Weed/Marijuana [Re: bobalicious]
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Agreed. You shouldn't really have anything to worry about other than some temporary shortness of breath. I theoretically have been smoking pot for years, and there isn't a problem so far. The biggest problem I've found with pot, is the people. Some people are just so stupid or have criminal association. That's the only thing I don't like about it.

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#322496 - 07/11/08 05:18 AM Re: Weed/Marijuana [Re: Colimon]
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Theoretically?

Most people who smoke marijuana are criminals, as smoking pot is against the law in (too) many countries.
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#322703 - 07/13/08 10:25 PM Re: Weed/Marijuana [Re: bobalicious]
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Well, I don't mean it exactly like that. I mean people who are associated with dealing and crime in general. I usually tend to come across people like that when having a sesh.
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#329543 - 09/04/08 01:44 AM Re: Weed/Marijuana [Re: Technichal]
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people say you cant get addicted to the drug.. and that is correct, but you get addicted to the feeling that it gives you... exactly the same thing.

the long term effects are minimal, unless you get caught in the states with it and go to jail.. in good ole' canada you get a small fine and get it taken away haha

only try pot if you really want too, dont let other people pressure you, if you say youre not into it you can probably get away with not trying it, but then there's the situations where its "just do it", its not that bad of a feeling and doesnt last that long, so just giver'

hope i help and good luck!!

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