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#304288 - 01/12/08 03:11 PM
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Hi, first off my name is Michael, but Aka MikeL, im 16 and will be 17 in Feb, i smoke about a pack of parliament lights every 2 days. Ive been smoking since i was 12, i mean i feel like im not addicted cause i can stop whenever i want, but its just that i dont WANT to stop. Smoking has helped me through alot of problems that i faced when i was in my younger days and i want to know what will happen to me later in life if i continue to smoke... I also rap, and i have noticed that sometimes i will be out of breath midway through recording a song but i just rerecord it and im ok... Thank you for whatever help you guys give me...
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#304297 - 01/12/08 03:29 PM
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i feel like im not addicted cause i can stop whenever i want, but its just that i dont WANT to stop.
HAHAHA Have you ever tried to stop for a while? Ttry to stop for a couple of weeks, then come back and say that.
What can happen to you? Lots of things... how about Cancer?
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#304299 - 01/12/08 03:31 PM
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Welcome to A2A, GrownPastMyYears!
Lots of young regular smokers say they are not addicted to nicotine, but they find differently when they try to stop. Because its euphoria is very mild it doesn't seem addicting, but because the effect is rapid it actually is.
The damage caused by low-tar cigarettes is more than the tar level would suggest. Most smokers end up with some degree of emphysema.
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#304305 - 01/12/08 04:23 PM
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i feel like im not addicted cause i can stop whenever i want, but its just that i dont WANT to stop.
HAHAHA Have you ever tried to stop for a while? Ttry to stop for a couple of weeks, then come back and say that.
What can happen to you? Lots of things... how about Cancer?
ive actually conciously stopped for MONTHS at a time... and i would just be like, i think imma start smoking again, im concious of what im doing. Ive done nearly every drug there is, just to see if i would get addicted, and none have really done that... i think addiction is a concious thing and if you dont believe ur going to get addicted you wont...
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#304321 - 01/12/08 05:54 PM
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i think addiction is a concious thing and if you dont believe ur going to get addicted you wont...
Yeah right... wishful thinking.
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#304327 - 01/12/08 06:31 PM
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i think addiction is a concious thing and if you dont believe ur going to get addicted you wont...
Yeah right... wishful thinking.
ive noticed that since your first reply to me, all youve done is laugh at me, and mock me...
ive done heroine, wasnt addicted, cocaine, wasnt addicted, ive smoked weed, ciggarettes, crack, and i havent gotten addicted...
why dont you explain that, DOCTOR...
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#304328 - 01/12/08 06:32 PM
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Hate to bust you guys' bubble, but I'm also one of those people that can put cigs down without a second thought. I've told Pete this, but now I'm not so sure if he ever believed me...
When I came home my parents said they don't want me smoking, and I said fine, no problem, and I haven't had a craving or anything since then.
Just because the stats say you can't cigs from one day to the next doesn't mean it can't happen. I believe the TC when he says he can put cigs down with no problem, because I've done the same.
@TC: Another benefit of stop smoking is all the money you save.
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#304331 - 01/12/08 06:40 PM
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i cant figure out what TC means, but thank you for your addition...
there have been millions of cases of unexplained things happening to people, an old lady lifting a car to save her grandson... people running for miles at a time even though normally there physically incapable of running that long...
it all has to do with your thoughts and motivation, like with the guy above me, his parents motivated him and asked him to stop, his love for his parents helped him through it, and he even said it, he doesnt have cravings or anything now! eat your heart out!!!
and about the money thing... i feel you on that, yea there lights and i only buy about 3 packs a week, but still 15 bucks is getting expensive...
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#304334 - 01/12/08 06:47 PM
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Uh, I think you misunderstood what I meant.
TC stands for Topic Creator (in other words, you).
> it all has to do with your thoughts and motivation
I can tell you from experience that addiction is more than just thoughts and motivation. Sure, that stuff helps, but it's not the end-all solution to addictions.
I'm guessnig addictions just effect people differently. For example, I can put down cigarettes at any given down, but coke is something I'll do over and over until I have spent all my money, it's very addicting to me.
You definetely shouldn't think that because you're not addicted to cigs that you can't be addicted to anything. You'll probably find your addiction someday.
Anyway, as to what you said..
> his parents motivated him and asked him to stop, his love for his parents helped him through it
Without going itno further detail, that's wrong. My parents just said they don't want me smoking while I live in their house and that's it, I just stopped. My point was that I could just stop smoking and not have cravings or anything whenever I want to, there was no motivation or anything like that.
> but still 15 bucks is getting expensive...
Well that's $780 a year so it does add up. I know I've spent thuosands of dollars on cigs...
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#304338 - 01/12/08 07:00 PM
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Sorry man, your views on addiction are very simplistic and wrong. You may not be addicted to cigs now, but if you continue, you very well could be. Just becasue you tried "a bunch of drugs", is not a pattern that sets up addiction.
Tell all the addicts in the world that the only thing holding them back is motivation. Please.
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#304339 - 01/12/08 07:08 PM
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i said that, that is what I FEEL, that is my view and opinion, you stated yours, and then on top of that insulted me...
That is my belief, and you insulting my belief about addiction, is the same as you insulting somebodies belief about there sexuality...
all i know is that ive been smoking for nearly 5 years, during my worse point i was up to a pack of menthol newports (one of the WORST cigs u can smoke) a day, i began smoking parliaments cause of the recessed filter and the fact that u intact less tar and nicotine because of it, and believing what i do has helped me overcome any and everything ive ever done...
so instead of insulting somebody, why dont u try helping them? i asked u what could be the damage of smoking in the long run, you said blatantly "cancer" where as others gave me actual reasons that might not be so apparent as to be imprinted on the actual box of cigarettes!
if something works for someone you should help that person even more by encouraging them and giving them your advice, especially if that person is under aged, even if he is "Grown past his years". and i cant believe that me a 16 year old is having such in ignorant argument with an adult!
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#304370 - 01/12/08 09:16 PM
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Hate to bust you guys' bubble, but I'm also one of those people that can put cigs down without a second thought. I've told Pete this, but now I'm not so sure if he ever believed me...
You haven't smoked long enough to get hooked.
I started smoking when I was about 25. I too smoke on and off. more off than on. I usually smoke becasue my wife will get stressed over something and them buy cigs and I will smoke along with her. But I haven't smoked in about a month and it doesn't bother me. However, if one starts young enough and smokes long enough, those cigarette hooks will get into them before they realize it.
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#304372 - 01/12/08 09:27 PM
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i think that i am going to stop smoking as much as i do, cause i do feel like it is taking a toll on my body, and i have big plans for myself, and to be honest i want to see my son grow up and become a respectable man, and i also want to see my daughter bring home her first boyfriend... well actually, i want to see the look on his face when i pull out a 12 gauge and point it in between his eyes and say, "what the fuck you here fo nigga?" (not in the derogatory sense of course, just a general reference...)i use polite english on here and around adults and intelligent people, but when it comes down to my friends, and home boyz... lol, how can i say this... its straite hood...
i think within the next month or 2 ill quit smoking, cause of the price $$$ wise, and cause of the price that its taking on my body... plus, i know they have all these cures for cancer, but seriously i like my hair, and i dont want it to fall off...
thank you for the references sdp, i appreciate it...
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#304375 - 01/12/08 09:56 PM
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> You haven't smoked long enough to get hooked.
Ah, right. So how long must one smoke to get addicted?
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#304376 - 01/12/08 10:03 PM
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No one can answer that. I suppose there are some studies out there but I don't feel like looking. I did read once that if you start smoking as a teen as opposed to someon in theirs 20's the chances of getting really hooked are much much greater. Maybe that's why I can take it or leave it.
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#304379 - 01/12/08 10:08 PM
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> No one can answer that
But you can, because you told me I haven't smoked long enough to get addicted.
> the chances of getting really hooked are much much greater
Wonderful. Just because the chances are much much greater doesn't mean it's impossible for someone to not be addicted to them.
What makes you so different than me that you can take it or leave it but I supposedly can't? My age? Com on, seriously.
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#304380 - 01/12/08 10:12 PM
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> You haven't smoked long enough to get hooked.
Ah, right. So how long must one smoke to get addicted?
Thats a good question. I've been smoking since I was 12 and I'm 23 now, and as with apparently everyone else in this thread, I can go weeks without touching a cigarette without any bother.
I think its probably more to do with genetics than anything else. Like how certain people are more likely to get addicted to substances than others. While reading through some of the old threads here I found another discussion about addiction and somebody said something about a certain gene that increases the chances of alcoholism in someone.
I dunno...
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#304381 - 01/12/08 10:14 PM
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although i dont agree with him about whether or not you have to have a certain time frame of smoking to get addicted, i do feel he has a point, people and their bodies are different, my friend sam smoked 5 cigs, really enjoyed them, and within a month he was addicted, the next day after smoking he asked me if i could give him some more, so i did, and unfortunately hes been smoking a pack of day since that month, but it goes to show how easily influenced people can be...
and what makes it different between the two of you is, just the fact that you two are both genetically different, blood lines, hereditary addictions, as well as a number of other things have to do with addiction, including free will...
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#304383 - 01/12/08 10:19 PM
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Perhpas a lot of it might have to do with how much one smokes too. If you smoke just one a day as opposed to a pack a day has a lot to do with it too.
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#304385 - 01/12/08 10:21 PM
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yes i do agree with you, i also agree on WHAT you smoke... from what studies show, certain cig's are healthier for you than others... for instance, parliament lights are like, one of the healthiest cigs that you can smoke... ALL CIGS are unhealthy, yes, but if your gna smoke, these are the ones you should smoke...
newports and marlboro reds/broncos, are the worse for you to smoke... well in general menthols are the worse for you...
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#304386 - 01/12/08 10:21 PM
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I know, I said that like 10 posts ago. Addiction affects everybody different.
I was pretty much calling sdp's statement stupid that there needs to be a certain amount of time before you get addicted. That's ridiculous.
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#304387 - 01/12/08 10:25 PM
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Well I (speaking from personal experience only, of course) have varied from smoking a pack a day for several weeks to one pack a week and have even gone about 4 months without touching a cigarette. But maybe I'm just weird. My smoking habits are often dictated by the people I'm with. I'll smoke with smokers and I won't smoke around non-smokers.
Or maybe my body adapted to the long periods of time without smoking because I used to have to hide it from my parents so when at home, I'd go a long time without a smoke. This is all confusing, someone should do a study on the habits of irregular smokers.
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#304391 - 01/12/08 10:37 PM
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What makes you so different than me that you can take it or leave it but I supposedly can't? My age? Com on, seriously.
IDK .. ask someone who is hooked on them. There are plenty.
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#304393 - 01/12/08 10:39 PM
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I'm asking you, because you're the one who told me I haven't smoked long enough to be hooked on them. Obviously you know something I don't about this, and I'd love to hear it.
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#304395 - 01/12/08 10:41 PM
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Can you not just both agree to disagree? It seems like you're just trying to push a needless argument.
Sorry if I'm speaking out of place.
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#304397 - 01/12/08 10:45 PM
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OK better words should have been...Maybe you haven't smoked long enough to be hooked on them.. there are no absolutes. Sorry
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#304398 - 01/12/08 10:45 PM
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I'm not trying to push any argument, I just want to see why sdp thinks he can tell me that I simply haven't smoked long enough to not be addicted to cigarettes.
He's basically saying you haven't smoked long enough to be addicted either. It seems like he can't believe the fact that some people just aren't addicted to cigarettes.
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#304399 - 01/12/08 10:46 PM
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I'll settle for that.
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#304400 - 01/12/08 10:49 PM
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I'm not saying that.. I do think that if one smokes long enough and enough quantity, he will get hooked. I've smoked off an on for 20 years and I'm not hooked. But I've never been a heavy smoker either. I'm sure there are plenty of variables.
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#304401 - 01/12/08 10:53 PM
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Well we all have different opinions based on our own experiences, but stating your opinion as fact to someone else is not cool.
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#304402 - 01/12/08 10:53 PM
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wow, alot of action since ive been gone... hmmm, i can agree with pinky, it was hard for me/is hard for me to smoke sometimes, cause i still live with my parents and that may be why i can go without cigarettes so easily... but we will never know truly why...
unless someone would like to break us into a molecular level and analyze the atoms that our genetical system possess(i think thats how u spell it)...
any takers?
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#304405 - 01/12/08 11:01 PM
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Here's an experiment.
Smoke a pack a day for years and then stop cold turkey. If it has no effect on you, then you da bomb. LOL
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#304409 - 01/12/08 11:09 PM
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that experiment is going to take to long, and cost to much... how about this, you let me cut open your heart and lungs, and ill slowly feed nicotine and tar into it, ill feed precisely the same amount as a pack a day, x 730 (equivalent to 2 years) then i will reinsert your lungs and heart, and then i will ask you, (after the surgery is complete, and the local anesthetic has warn off,)to quit smoking that same exact day... and i will write down your actions... and/or any seizures you may have...
so when should i schedule this appointment of ours?
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#304419 - 01/12/08 11:51 PM
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Umm yeah, that makes sense.
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#304444 - 01/13/08 01:44 AM
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I know i havn't been thorugh what you have, but really: fuck cigarettes. They smell bad, fuck your lungs, and can cause cancer.
If you really can stop them with no problem from addiction, i'd ay do it. really, are they that fun?
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#304447 - 01/13/08 01:59 AM
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After a good dinner? Yes.
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#304454 - 01/13/08 10:36 AM
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plus a nice couple of hits after getting laid is great as well, they also make for great conversation with other smokers, at least with teens... i dont really smell the smell of good cigarettes, when it comes to reds, and marlboros, Eh! disgusting, i hate that smell, parliaments have a strong smell, but they dont smell bad, newports are kinda leaning towards reds...
camels smell ok...
lol and i seriously think that im going to stop smoking soon, i just want to get my GED first, then ill stop, because im going to be working a shitload, and saving up my money, so i need to save as much money and time as i can...
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#304749 - 01/14/08 06:38 PM
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I just quit on New Years 2008. I also smoked since twelve. The problem is that I've quit before, and said I'll never smoke again. This time I hope to keep my promise. I went cold turkey but there is a product called Chantix. It works well, from what I've heard.
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