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#313786 - 04/09/08 08:14 PM
She's but a wee lass
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TheFallenLight
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A friend of mine wants to gain weight, she's about 5'4 and only 94 pounds. She seems to eat a fair amount.
Any tips on what she should do to gain weight, I think she wants to be around 120 or something.
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#313907 - 04/10/08 07:24 PM
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tell her to eat soul food... i've seen a girl go from a bit over 100 to 130 inna good mnth an a half.
collard greens, cat fish, fried chicken, (if shes of age,) beer/liquor, dont smoke cigarettes, or weed...
and tell her to hold off going to the bathroom as long as she can, and then go when she literally HAS to go... good luck.
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#313909 - 04/10/08 07:45 PM
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and tell her to hold off going to the bathroom as long as she can, and then go when she literally HAS to go...
Wouldn't that cause constipation? And how does holding it in help you gain weight?
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#313914 - 04/10/08 08:02 PM
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And how does holding it in help you gain weight?
Becasue you're full of shit.
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#313915 - 04/10/08 08:07 PM
Re: She's but a wee lass
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Lol, true. But waste is waste, it's going to HAVE to come out.
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#313931 - 04/11/08 01:36 AM
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I will stand by my usual advice in these situations, some people are just naturally skinny and have really fast metabolisms, and until they get older and that metabolism slows, extra eating will do little to no good. It's okay to be petite, one can be womanly without curves.
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#313941 - 04/11/08 03:02 AM
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My thoughts exactly!
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#313944 - 04/11/08 03:29 AM
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I just talked to my brother in the army. Apparently, if you only eat 3 solid meals a day it will do the trick.
He use to eat around 8x a day, and I mean things like 3 packs of roman noodles and a grill cheese per meal type things.
Never gained a pound over 125, as a matter of fact he got sick and was 112 pounds when he joined the army, he now weights 157, and thats been in 4 months.
I'm guess that eating only 3x a day and getting your amount of calories you actually need will slow your metabolism down naturally.
There's no such thing as (there's skinny people who can't gain weight) if you can speed up your metabolism by eating a bunch of small meals, I would assume you can train your body to slow your metabolism as well.
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#313954 - 04/11/08 07:49 AM
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People in the army are worked very hard, and I bet that builds up quite a bit of muscle. Also, as you get older your metabolism slows. I could eat anything and stay skinny in my mid-teens, but I started getting just a little bigger late teens/early twenties, and it accelerated from there.
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#313964 - 04/11/08 10:04 AM
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Apparently, if you only eat 3 solid meals a day it will do the trick.
This is only your theory based on coincidence. Kinda like your, "I started having sex and it caused me to lose a lot of weight".
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#313994 - 04/11/08 12:02 PM
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Read the following and apply it to your thought process. I think you'll find that it will save you time and money later in life.
After-the-Fact Reasoning
Also known as "post hoc, ergo propter hoc," literally "after this, therefore because of this." At its basest level, it is a form of superstition. The baseball player does not shave and hits two home runs. The gambler wears his lucky shoes because he has won wearing them in the past. More subtly, scientific studies can fall prey to this fallacy. In 1993 a study found that breast-fed children have higher IQ scores. There was much clamor over what ingredient in mother's milk increased intelligence. Mothers who bottle-fed their babies were made to feel guilty. But soon researchers began to wonder whether breast-fed babies are attended to differently. Maybe nursing mothers spend more time with their babies and motherly vigilance was the cause behind the differences in IQ. As Hume taught us, the fact that two events follow each other in sequence does not mean they are connected causally. Correlation does not mean causation.
Lots and lots and lots of people fall victim to after the fact reasoning and thereby head down many wrong roads that don't lead them were they want to go. This is a very basic and common reasoning flaw in the human brain and one we all should be on guard against.
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#314011 - 04/11/08 07:03 PM
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Unfortunately, we can only know correlation but not causation. But we can make pretty good guesses if we control the variables well. Was going to post about something like you said but you beat me to it.
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#314058 - 04/12/08 11:24 PM
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and tell her to hold off going to the bathroom as long as she can, and then go when she literally HAS to go... good luck.
That is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
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#314099 - 04/13/08 02:32 PM
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People in the army are worked very hard, and I bet that builds up quite a bit of muscle. Also, as you get older your metabolism slows. I could eat anything and stay skinny in my mid-teens, but I started getting just a little bigger late teens/early twenties, and it accelerated from there.
Yeah, but I bet it didn't change that much in a couple of months.
Going from not being able to gain a single pound to putting on 42 pounds, while eating proper amounts and not mcdonalds constantly.
Nah your metabolism doesn't change that dramatically on it's own. If it changed, I guaranteed there was more to it then, well i got a slightly, and I mean very slightly, older.
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#314101 - 04/13/08 03:08 PM
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Your theory is still nonsense. Good try though.
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#314110 - 04/13/08 05:36 PM
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You say that, but then again, has anyone actually sat down and tried my theory? There aren't that many trying to gain weight, and those I know of that do eat constantly, which we all know will keep your metabolism running.
Find me someone who's around 95 pounds, who's actually tried eating just 2-3 meals, but eating around 1000 calories per meal. specifically to gain weight.
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#314114 - 04/13/08 05:49 PM
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and those I know of that do eat constantly, which we all know will keep your metabolism running.
But that's not necessarily true for everyone. Your metabolism slows down as you get older.
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#314115 - 04/13/08 05:57 PM
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Yeah we all know that. But not as dramatically as everyone likes to make it sound.
And anyone at whatever age, can raise the speed of their metabolism, not as much as when you were younger, but in either case it can be.
But if you can control your body to raise the speed of something. You can train it to slow it down as well.
Just to add on.
Your body kicks on it's calorie burning abilities 10-15 minutes after you eat.
If you're 95 pounds you probably only need about 1500 to maintain weight.
Logically (If I have 2000 calories I should gain a pound a week)
But if you have 400 calories per meal, and every time you eat your body kicks in your metabolism and say it burns 125 calories over a set amount of time.
It would take 5 meals to reach 2000 calories only consuming 400. But if your metabolism kicks in and burns those calories thats 625 calories burnt through your metabolism. putting you back at around 1500 calories. Therefore not causing you to lose weight, but not allowing you to gain weight.
however if you eat say 800 calories, and eat 3 meals, that's 2400 calories. And if you only burn 125 of your calories per after meal digesting and yada yada. thats 375. putting you at a daily value of 2025 or so.
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#314170 - 04/13/08 11:48 PM
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Diet and nutition has been studied ad nauseum. If your "theory" were true, some academic would have found that out already. Again.. Good try.
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#314174 - 04/14/08 05:21 AM
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On one hand, you'd think that, but on the other, if you think about it. How heavy has this theory in particular been researched?
Most people who want to gain weight, are people who want to build it up in muscle, so they eat tons of calories and shitloads of protein and so on and so forth.
And most of the rest are trying to increase their metabolism not slow it down. How many people wanted to gain 20-30 pounds in both muscle fat bone etc. the whole deal?
And also studies still only go so far, It's like enzymes vrs protein, obviously vegans don't get the amount of "protein" they need, but they still get what they need because of enzymes from raw veggies.
Enzymes can't be studied enough to tell you how many this plant has, and how many you need to get the same effect of say eating a tenderloin that has 37g of protein.
You don't know how many apples and carrots and berries you need to eat to = 37g of protein without eating meat.
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#314178 - 04/14/08 08:03 AM
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Enzymes are protein, and any proteins are broken down to amino acids in digestion, so I don't think it matters what sort of proteins they are.
The high-protein vegan foods are pulses - peas and beans. It's quite possible to get easily enough protein for normal living with an ordinary vegan diet - I don't know about heavy bodybuilding. (It's vitamin B12 that's the real problem for vegans.) It's easy to look up protein compositions of various foods: here is a brief list.
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#314181 - 04/14/08 08:22 AM
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Problem with vegans is not only are most non-animal food sources naturally low in protein, but what protein they do hold does not contain the full range of essential amino acids. I don't know the figures off the top of my head, but I know vegans have to spread their protein diet out to get the full range, i.e. they can't just eat 50g of protein from beans and expect that to be enough. They need protein from nuts, beans, grains, etc.
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#314184 - 04/14/08 10:11 AM
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Let's put it this way. Why don't you do a scientific study and have people eat "just" 3 normal meals a day and see how many actually gain lots of weight. If can prove this silly theory rather than base it off what happened with your brother then I'll shake your hand. Until then please don't try and spout this as fact.
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#314192 - 04/14/08 11:10 AM
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just to add some shit to your idea there...
3 meals, proportioned, and some exercise.... the skinny little fuckers (like me :D) will bulk up and fill out, the fat bastards, will drop pant sizes and gain weight as muscle is more than fat.... for proof I offer any single basic training class in the any of the armed forces.
# meals on schedule, all controlled proportions, and plenty of exercise.
It seems to me the experiment for the most part is already done and continues on every few weeks in one branch or other of the military.
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#314359 - 04/16/08 08:13 AM
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Search youtube for running raw for a good example of what I mentioned.
Anyways, I would gladly do the scientific research, if I could, alas I can't. Perhaps in the future.
I would really love to test out this theory, but unfortunately I do not know anyone underweight that could keep up the diet for even a week =/
Nor do I have time to monitor people to make sure they're actually following through.
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#314360 - 04/16/08 10:33 AM
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Apparently they can get the stuff that protein is broken into from Raw veggies and fruits as long as they aren't cooked. I think the guy on the running raw program is 220 pounds or something all muscle.
And I believe he said he only gets 20-30g of protein a day
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