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#313829 - 04/10/08 03:23 AM Dry Foreskin And Other Slight Problems
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Earlier today I had gone to the urologist because of cuts on the top of the tip of the right side of my fore skin. He prescribed me a cream called Betamethasone. He said if the medication doesn't work I should call him and schedule another appointment. He also went on to mention, if I choose to I could have a circumcision. He explained the pros and cons of the procedure. One of the things he mentioned was that since there is skin there, with it gone it will feel really weird. And that some guys like the new feeling while others don't. My question is, has anybody gone through the same experience? And if so what do you recommend?
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#313830 - 04/10/08 03:44 AM Re: Dry Foreskin And Other Slight Problems [Re: JEDI-ALCHEMIST]
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I also want to add my question since I'm his lady and, as his lady, I worry.

He's been getting these random cuts for quite a while now. They are usually near the tip of the foreskin. My guess was that his skin was dry and it cracked, making these cuts. So, keeping his foreskin moisturized should help. The urologist said that the chemicals in regular lotions will not work because that area was too sensitive (which is why the doctor gave my boyfriend the steroid cream).

So, my question is, is that really so? It's not that I don't trust this doctor, but a little feedback from other people will help me learn better. My thoughts were that if some guys masturbate with lotion, how is it different for those with foreskin?

My boyfriend's going to use the cream prescribed to see how it turns out. But he's about 99.9% close to getting a circumcision. I've already told him I'll support whatever he choses to do. I just want all our questions and concerns cleared up to see if getting him cut is indeed a wise decision.
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#313831 - 04/10/08 04:13 AM Re: Dry Foreskin And Other Slight Problems [Re: Virtual_Star]
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I have nothing really I can say other then, those cracks will fuck you up big time. I have that problem with my feet and hands, it will be a terrible terrible burden that will cause much pain.

As for the (Not working because it's sensitive) I dunno, but if people masturbate with lotion I don't see why it wouldn't work.

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#313843 - 04/10/08 10:09 AM Re: Dry Foreskin And Other Slight Problems [Re: JEDI-ALCHEMIST]
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When there is a little dryness or whatever, and you masturbate or have sex, it creates these little cracks, whether they become an actual sore or not. When they heal, they create little scars. These little scars lack elasticity, which crack when stretched. It becomes a vicious cycle.

I'd guess that usually, this causes few problems, but it can lead to phimosis and other problems that are most often treated with circumcision.
I don't know the reason it originally starts in people prone to it.

If you should decide to choose circumcision, I, personally, don't think you'll regret it.

As for lotions: If he said to avoid them, it's probably best to avoid them, but you could always ask about Vaseline, mineral oil (baby oil without fragrance) or maybe a hypo-allergenic moisturizer. (I think the thing about Vaseline & oils is to apply it after the shower while wet and then towel off.)

Be careful about the soaps you use to shower with and the detergents you wash clothes with.

Try a liquid body wash or SoftSoap.

Trial and error in eliminating irritants is a real bitch!
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#313861 - 04/10/08 11:32 AM Re: Dry Foreskin And Other Slight Problems [Re: Rad]
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cracks that dry and lead to phimosis?? I've never heard of this before.

Unless of course I took your post out of context and you meant something else.
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#313864 - 04/10/08 11:38 AM Re: Dry Foreskin And Other Slight Problems [Re: ko9]
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When they heal, they create little scars. These little scars lack elasticity, which crack when stretched. It becomes a vicious cycle.

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#313869 - 04/10/08 12:18 PM Re: Dry Foreskin And Other Slight Problems [Re: ko9]
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cracks that dry and lead to phimosis?? I've never heard of this before.

Unless of course I took your post out of context and you meant something else.


Phimosis just means tightness.
Tightness may occur due to many conditions, leading to cracking and scar tissue.
Any scar tissue is less elastic than normal tissue, making it prone to cracking when stretched, leading to more scar tissue, leading to more tightness, leading to more cracking, etc.


**Gentle stretching techniques may preserve your foreskin.
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#313873 - 04/10/08 01:22 PM Re: Dry Foreskin And Other Slight Problems [Re: JEDI-ALCHEMIST]
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I think I need to caution anybody against leaving anything on their foreskin that causes unnatural wetness under there.

Foreskins are naturally moist and we try like heck to keep it dry.

But, when a dry condition exists, we try many things, both prescribed and over the counter, to treat what's there.

**Often, after the products cease being used, the problem is worse.

Look at it like an addiction to lip balm. You have dry lips and you use ChapStik. It helps, but you soon develop a condition that requires lip moisturizer all the time.

**If anybody has experienced this problem after applying a doctor prescribed cream, please post your thoughts!

In my opinion, a small amount of Vaseline or oil applied after a shower and toweled off, shouldn't create any problems.
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#313879 - 04/10/08 02:24 PM Re: Dry Foreskin And Other Slight Problems [Re: Rad]
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Whoot, you're wonderful Rad! \:\) Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

I'll leave it up to my boyfriend if he wants to try the Vasline idea, after seeing if that cream the doctor gave him will do any good. But I think we've both agree if this problem is just too much of a pain in the butt to deal with, then getting cut is the best option.

He and I are just a bit nervous, that's all. Even though it's a common procedure.
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#313899 - 04/10/08 05:53 PM Re: Dry Foreskin And Other Slight Problems [Re: Virtual_Star]
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It's worth also considering the possibility that the cracking is being caused by a fungal infection.
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#313901 - 04/10/08 05:59 PM Re: Dry Foreskin And Other Slight Problems [Re: Ineligible]
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That's what I was thinking. I really doubt the problem is with "dry skin". Something else is going on.
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#313904 - 04/10/08 06:19 PM Re: Dry Foreskin And Other Slight Problems [Re: sdp]
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You'd hope the urologist would know what is causing it and treat it.

I encourage that determination, as well, even if a dermatologist has to get involved.
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#313912 - 04/10/08 07:59 PM Re: Dry Foreskin And Other Slight Problems [Re: Ineligible]
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Thank you for pointing that out. I never thought to think of that. I don't know about now or recently, but my boyfriend hasn't complained about the foreskin being red, itchy, or irritated. That is, unless there's more to a fungal infection than that.

I'd hoped that the urologist would have mentioned that but he left in a hurry because he had an emergency patient to attend to.

I'll bow out now and let my boyfriend take over and see what he says. I only know what he told me during the appointment. I don't want to talk for him, since I'm not the one with the problem, lol.
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#313913 - 04/10/08 08:00 PM Re: Dry Foreskin And Other Slight Problems [Re: Rad]
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Yes, you'd hope.. Too many doctors are just damn lazy and just treat the symptoms without treating the cause.
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#313916 - 04/10/08 08:12 PM Re: Dry Foreskin And Other Slight Problems [Re: sdp]
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Amen!

I know that first hand. You have to be your own advocate.

And, since it's skin, see a dermatologist if the urologist can't isolate the source.
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#313919 - 04/10/08 09:12 PM Re: Dry Foreskin And Other Slight Problems [Re: Virtual_Star]
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Fungal infections can cause flaking and 'dry skin', and they can also cause the skin to crack. They don't always itch or even look red.
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#313920 - 04/10/08 09:53 PM Re: Dry Foreskin And Other Slight Problems [Re: JEDI-ALCHEMIST]
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All of you have given me so many answers and responses I truly thank all of you for the help you have given me. I am truly grateful. I will post my decision shortly right after conferring with Virtual_Star. Once again thank you all!
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#313925 - 04/10/08 10:45 PM Re: Dry Foreskin And Other Slight Problems [Re: JEDI-ALCHEMIST]
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I don't understand. You're not going to try the creme?
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#313926 - 04/10/08 11:04 PM Re: Dry Foreskin And Other Slight Problems [Re: sdp]
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Well like I said I'm going to post my answer after I confer with Virtual_Star so sit tight guys lol. ;\)
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#313934 - 04/11/08 02:14 AM Re: Dry Foreskin And Other Slight Problems [Re: Ineligible]
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The thing is though, I don't get flaking. So it's probably not fungus.

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#313937 - 04/11/08 02:45 AM Re: Dry Foreskin And Other Slight Problems [Re: JEDI-ALCHEMIST]
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 Originally Posted By: JEDI-ALCHEMIST
The thing is though, I don't get flaking. So it's probably not fungus.

You and I don't know that for sure. :P

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I don't understand. You're not going to try the creme?

Not at first and I was suprised. Took me a bit to convince him to at least try it and if it doesn't work, then he should get the circumcision.
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#313940 - 04/11/08 02:59 AM Re: Dry Foreskin And Other Slight Problems [Re: JEDI-ALCHEMIST]
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Yup that she did lol! She can be quite convincing sometimes and I mean that in a good way ;\) ! So since I have decided to use the cream, any thoughts on what to do incase it doesn't work? Or in case it causes more problems?
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#313951 - 04/11/08 07:37 AM Re: Dry Foreskin And Other Slight Problems [Re: JEDI-ALCHEMIST]
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I should make it clear that betamethasone is not an anti-fungal. It's an anti-inflammatory.

Wikipedia article on betamethasone.

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#313963 - 04/11/08 10:00 AM Re: Dry Foreskin And Other Slight Problems [Re: JEDI-ALCHEMIST]
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It's not(doubt) going to cause "more" problems.
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#313996 - 04/11/08 12:30 PM Re: Dry Foreskin And Other Slight Problems [Re: JEDI-ALCHEMIST]
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 Originally Posted By: JEDI-ALCHEMIST
Yup that she did lol! She can be quite convincing sometimes and I mean that in a good way ;\) ! So since I have decided to use the cream, any thoughts on what to do incase it doesn't work? Or in case it causes more problems?


All I can offer is to reiterate the important (to me) suggestions from yesterday:

Go to a dermatologist to determine what the condition is, what is causing it and get treatment.

What sdp said may be very true! See what I said about that, too.
 Originally Posted By: Radeckl
But, when a dry condition exists, we try many things, both prescribed and over the counter, to treat what's there.

Often, after the products cease being used, the problem is worse.
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#314036 - 04/12/08 03:58 PM Re: Dry Foreskin And Other Slight Problems [Re: JEDI-ALCHEMIST]
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Well a problem has come up. Yesterday I had to call the pharmacist because of one of the side effects. I noticed yesterday morning that there was some discoloration on the area where I apply the cream. So before I called the pharmacist I refered to the instructions that came with the cream. It wasn't much help so I decided to call the pharmacist to make sure that it wasn't something bad. Unfortunatly he confirmed it. So now I have to stop taking the medication. I have to check what other options I have left before I finally decide to get the procedure done. Do you guys have any suggestions on the matter? \:\(

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#314038 - 04/12/08 04:11 PM Re: Dry Foreskin And Other Slight Problems [Re: JEDI-ALCHEMIST]
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Confirmed what?
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#314043 - 04/12/08 05:10 PM Re: Dry Foreskin And Other Slight Problems [Re: JEDI-ALCHEMIST]
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Yeah, confirmed what?

And, cream you don't 'take'.

What medication were you taking?
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#314045 - 04/12/08 05:24 PM Re: Dry Foreskin And Other Slight Problems [Re: JEDI-ALCHEMIST]
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Really sorry, let me start over heh, >_>; Okay, I had decided to use the cream the urologist had prescribed. So far there had been no problems what so ever, no burning no irritation no flaking, nothing. In fact it felt as if it were working. Then yesterday morning when I was preparing to apply the cream, I had noticed that there was discoloration on the intended use of the area. I then consulted a paper that came with the cream detailing it's use and directions and possible side effects. One of the serious side effects that was listed was: in case of increased irritation or discoloration stop use and consult with doctor or pharmacist. I then decided to call the pharmacy and ask about that side effect. He told me to cease use immediatly. So I stopped using it and there is no pain or burning or irritation of any kind on the area. What I would like to know is do you guys have any suggestions on what to do next?
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#314046 - 04/12/08 05:29 PM Re: Dry Foreskin And Other Slight Problems [Re: Rad]
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The name of the cream is Betamethasone.
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#314061 - 04/12/08 11:38 PM Re: Dry Foreskin And Other Slight Problems [Re: JEDI-ALCHEMIST]
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IDK. I think you're getting upset over nothing. You say "discoloration". That's kind of vague. Did it turn black, red, purple, green? What?

What side effects can this medication cause?
Betamethasone may cause side effects.

Tell your doctor if any of these symptoms are severe or do not go away:
drying or cracking of the skin
acne
itching
burning
change in skin color

If you experience any of the following symptoms, call your doctor immediately:
severe skin rash
difficulty breathing or swallowing
wheezing
skin infection (redness, swelling, or oozing pus)


http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/medmaster/a682799.html

I would consult the doctor on Monday but continue using it.

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#314064 - 04/13/08 12:46 AM Re: Dry Foreskin And Other Slight Problems [Re: sdp]
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Well, when I say discoloration I mean it was turning pink. Like bright pink. But I recently checked down there a few minutes ago and it turned back to it's normal color.
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#314069 - 04/13/08 01:19 AM Re: Dry Foreskin And Other Slight Problems [Re: JEDI-ALCHEMIST]
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Of course the pharmacist is going to tell you to stop. They don't want to be liable for anything, referring you back to the doctor. I just think you are overreacting. I've used steroid cremes before and you have to use just a tiny tiny bit and just rub it in well. How much did you use?
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#314074 - 04/13/08 01:49 AM Re: Dry Foreskin And Other Slight Problems [Re: sdp]
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I spread about a 1/4 of it on my fingertip and slowly rub it around the area. And yes you may be right in saying that I am overreacting, but this has never happened to me before.
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#314075 - 04/13/08 01:50 AM Re: Dry Foreskin And Other Slight Problems [Re: JEDI-ALCHEMIST]
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1/4 of it

??? what does that mean? 1/4 of the tube?

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#314077 - 04/13/08 01:55 AM Re: Dry Foreskin And Other Slight Problems [Re: sdp]
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Sorry, I meant to say about half a quarter of a squeeze of the tube onto my finger tip. I don't apply that much pressure because I make sure to not over do it.
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#314078 - 04/13/08 01:58 AM Re: Dry Foreskin And Other Slight Problems [Re: JEDI-ALCHEMIST]
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half a quarter of a squeeze of the tube

Again, I have no idea how much that is.

You should be using only a small dab of the creme. Enough to lightly rub into the affected area. This isn't a moisturizer that you glop on and rub in.

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#314079 - 04/13/08 02:05 AM Re: Dry Foreskin And Other Slight Problems [Re: sdp]
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That's what I meant to say a dab! Sorry to be putting you through all these dumb guessing games. My mind is mush right now >_< so I'm not making much sense lol.
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#314560 - 04/20/08 06:15 PM Re: Dry Foreskin And Other Slight Problems [Re: JEDI-ALCHEMIST]
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I hate to pry, but I just love discussing your prick! :p

Got any updates?
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#314601 - 04/21/08 02:21 PM Re: Dry Foreskin And Other Slight Problems [Re: Rad]
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O_0 oooooooooooooookay . Lol Just kidding, I am very happy to say that I am no longer dry! It seems the cream did work after all ^_^! Even though I quit using it due to the adverse side effects, from what little I used it seemed like it worked. However, I do have scars but thankfully they haven't reopened. I am now very careful when I masturbate making sure that I don't grip it hard and not dig my nails deep when I orgasm. Other than that no problem what so ever! Looks like I won't be needing a circumcision! Whew! Dodged that bullet! I do have a follow up appointment with the urologist so he'll be able to offer a different method of getting rid of this problem with having to get circumcised.
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#314605 - 04/21/08 03:06 PM Re: Dry Foreskin And Other Slight Problems [Re: JEDI-ALCHEMIST]
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so he'll be able to offer a different method of getting rid of this problem

I still think this method/creme is/was fine and will be fine in the future. I still believe you overracted but you should talk about it with the doctor and get his opinion.

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#314608 - 04/21/08 04:12 PM Re: Dry Foreskin And Other Slight Problems [Re: sdp]
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Very very true. But still better safe than sorry know what I mean?
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#314614 - 04/21/08 05:38 PM Re: Dry Foreskin And Other Slight Problems [Re: JEDI-ALCHEMIST]
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Alrighty, then!

I'm sure you won't ask the doc what to do, but maybe you should try a moisturizer or good lube when you masturbate.

All the years I was uncut, I was single and not a fan of lube (I like a good lube now, like AstroGlide), but maybe if you use a moisturizer before, if not during, it would prevent that cracking.

What's that about digging in of fingernails?

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#314620 - 04/21/08 06:06 PM Re: Dry Foreskin And Other Slight Problems [Re: JEDI-ALCHEMIST]
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Look into stuff like, Vitamin E, cocoa butter or something.

Anything good for stretch marks ought to be good for your foreskin.

I'd just recommend you not keep it wet with anything all the time.

Use only enough to lightly cover the affected area, maybe just before you play, with your self or your woman and rub it in well.
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#314639 - 04/21/08 11:52 PM Re: Dry Foreskin And Other Slight Problems [Re: Rad]
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Of course I am going to ask the doctor what to do why wouldn't I? Also sometimes when I orgasm it's so strong I litteraly dig my fingernails into it. And I don't like to use lube becauseof the mess afterwards.
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#314640 - 04/21/08 11:53 PM Re: Dry Foreskin And Other Slight Problems [Re: Rad]
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Will do man thanks alot!
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#314645 - 04/22/08 12:26 AM Re: Dry Foreskin And Other Slight Problems [Re: JEDI-ALCHEMIST]
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 Originally Posted By: JEDI-ALCHEMIST
Of course I am going to ask the doctor what to do why wouldn't I? Also sometimes when I orgasm it's so strong I litteraly dig my fingernails into it. And I don't like to use lube becauseof the mess afterwards.


Well, my idea of why wouldn't you is, it's hard to ask a doc what to use to jack off with .. at least it would be for me.

If you can, congratulations to you! It is the right thing to do.

(I wasn't referring to your foreskin health, in general, when I said that ... just the masturbation lube.
And, I agree: Clean up is a bitch!)
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#315047 - 04/27/08 12:15 PM Re: Dry Foreskin And Other Slight Problems [Re: Virtual_Star]
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 Originally Posted By: Virtual_Star
I also want to add my question since I'm his lady and, as his lady, I worry.

He's been getting these random cuts for quite a while now. They are usually near the tip of the foreskin. My guess was that his skin was dry and it cracked, making these cuts. So, keeping his foreskin moisturized should help. The urologist said that the chemicals in regular lotions will not work because that area was too sensitive (which is why the doctor gave my boyfriend the steroid cream).

So, my question is, is that really so?


Dunno whether you're still reading the thread, but I'll add what I know as a lad who has his foreskin and comes from a country, The Netherlands, where doctors know that you treat, not amputate!

You're right, the doctor prescribed a steroid cream used for stretching the foreskin when it's tight, it doesn't do a damn thing about moisturizing the skin. Your b/f's doctor is full of crap and it's pretty suspicious that he started talking to him about being cut right off. Your b/f using a cream that doesn't treat his problem will insure he'll be back for that circumcission.

One of the best body moisturizers available is call EUCERIN. It is available over-the-counter at any chemist or where skin products are sold, especially for ladies, although it isn't just for them, it's just they buy those products more commonly.

Tell him to use it everyday, after the shower is a good time. It goes on the outer foreskin not the inner skin and you work it into the skin just like you would when putting it on your hands.

Cracks in the skin are caused by dry skin and your b'f's foreskin being forced to expand and uncover the knob is obviously too dry to expand easily, so it cracks. the Eucerin will do the trick and do it economically. You might also apply some prior to having sex (you could help him apply it ) just for an extra measure of help, comfort and prevention.

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#315048 - 04/27/08 12:32 PM Re: Dry Foreskin And Other Slight Problems [Re: Christiaan]
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May I ask why the doctors in The Netherlands have never treated your foreskin problem?

You have reported here that your foreskin will not fully retract.
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#315130 - 04/28/08 12:47 PM Re: Dry Foreskin And Other Slight Problems [Re: Rad]
Christiaan
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 Originally Posted By: Radeckl
May I ask why the doctors in The Netherlands have never treated your foreskin problem?

You have reported here that your foreskin will not fully retract.


I was not discussing my penis nor do I intend to. I mentioned that I knew a little bit about foreskins because I have one.

Your question reflects why I rarely read here and even more rarely bother to write. To use an American expression, "I don't have a dog in this fight!"

I don't mean in any way to be unkind to you or the others who lurk and write here on a regular basis. However, the group is dominated by and reflects one view of foreskins, often put forth by folks who don't have one and who are parroting the opinions of M.D.'s and supposed experts who themselves don't have one and who were in turn taught by others who didn't have one.

Using the writer's comment of his experience, the doctor suggesting circumcision for cracked skin plus prescribing an inefective cream for the problem is shocking. In the E.U. and I suspect the remainder of the non-circumcising world, at a physical or office visit, the doctor will check for a hernia and that's it. The only time he would touch your penis is if you specifically ask him or give him permission. There is not the fetish of seeing a foreskin and the closest he might come is to ask if you have any problems?

There is no intention on my part to hurt any one's feelings here nor attack anyone, but I joined believing this is an open form and after being jumped on earlier, I learned that differing comments would only be shouted down and the writer vilified. I accept that, it's a form which belongs to others and is operated under the Golden Rule. "He who has the gold, makes the rules." That's reality and I accept that. Thus I confine my very occasional comments to suggest usimg Eucerin Cream for skin cracks.

Christiaan
Breda, Noord-Brabant, NL

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