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well... most of you know how much i care about my girlfriend, well ex... girlfriend... i love her so dearly, and ive done so much for her...
today we've officially separated... for her own reasons that i'd rather not list...
ive been talking to this other girl... and she likes me for me... she likes how i talk (i censor my talking ALOT when talking on A2A, or to there members, as well as talking to my ex) she supports my music... she seems perfect... only prolem i can really see... is that shes 14... and im 17... :-\
i will always and forever love my ex... she's helped me through so many rough times... but i censored myself soo much for her, and i changed ALOT of my ways for her... and i feel like she fell in love with the wroung person... and it was my fault for doing that... but i understand that shes not in love with MikeL... she's in love with MICHAEL...
imma rapper... imma thug... i love to fight... i love to have sex... i like to smoke... i like to drink... i have a complex mind... at least so i think...
and she just cant come to realize this about me, and thats why our relationship faulted so much, i didnt keep it real for her... and i understand that...
when she first told me this, i felt gloom... i felt like i'd be a wealthy man, who moves nations of people, and who has such an amazing impact on people. but at night, when im lay alone in my house, with beautiful cars in the garage, and a gorgeous view... imma feel alone and sad, because even with all the money in the world... i still wouldnt have the person i love...
but this possibility seems unlikely, ive found a new shred of light... and i just have to go with the flow...
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#315592 - 05/05/08 10:37 AM
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she seems perfect... only prolem i can really see... is that shes 14... and im 17... :-\
Avoid, avoid, avoid.
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#315596 - 05/05/08 10:55 AM
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why do i need to avoid her? she acts alot older than her age... when she said she was 14 i literally had to look her up,
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#315599 - 05/05/08 11:16 AM
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The fact that she's 14 may be a clue as to why it might be a good idea to avoid sex with her.
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#315600 - 05/05/08 11:19 AM
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im avoiding sex period... i dont plan on having sex with her... at least not now... im trying to take it slow... shes not a virgin though, even though i dought it makes any significance in this issue...
but yea, atm its a long distance relationship... she lives in new mexico, and i live in cali, and imma be touring soon so, i know fa sho, that i wont even see her for a couple months...
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#315614 - 05/05/08 01:11 PM
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A couple months isn't going to change the age issue. Three years is not a lot, there is three years before my BF and I. But when it comes to laws and the age group you are both in is what makes the difference. Not worth going to jail and being classed as a sex-offender for the rest of your life.
Just some food for thought.
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#315616 - 05/05/08 01:14 PM
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i feel u, but when i said a couple of months, i meant like a couple till i even get to see/date her...
can i be tried for anything if im simply DATING her? and not any sexual acts?
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#315618 - 05/05/08 01:37 PM
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It's not just the sexual laws that I was pointing out. The mature levels and life stages between a 14-year-old and a 17-year-old is huge. It's not the same as someone who's 24 and 27 because people around this age have similarities, like careers or whatever. But a 14-year-old is around 8/9 grade, just beginning to start high school and adolescence. Someone at your age has already been through that and is already starting his own life. You're about to start adulthood while she's just starting to become a teenager.
There's nothing wrong with being friends. But I don't think anything more than that will be serious enough to last. I'm not saying it's impossible, but it's highly unlikely.
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#315619 - 05/05/08 01:44 PM
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idk about her... i really like her shes really cool... like i said, shes really mature for her age... psh... shes really mature period...
im not going to get my hopes up, and say that this is some forever type shit, but im willin to go through it, if she is...
theres something about her that i cant put my finger on yet... but ill let yall know when i know...
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#315624 - 05/05/08 02:21 PM
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Well you cannot say we haven't worned you ahead of time. I think you're traveling a dangerous road.
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#315626 - 05/05/08 02:29 PM
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I'm going to have to agree with Eddie on this. I also think you should focus on yourself right now.
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#315627 - 05/05/08 02:30 PM
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i know that im stubborn alot of the time... and i really do appreciate your words... thats why im not going to have sex with her... till were either married, or shes 18...
but i juss wanna know if legally could they charge me with anything? i dont wanna be another akon... or r kelly... minus the peeing...
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#315629 - 05/05/08 02:33 PM
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but i juss wanna know if legally could they charge me with anything? i dont wanna be another akon... or r kelly... minus the peeing...
No legally just going on dates there is nothing that can be done.... but what if (for whatever reason) she makes an allegation you two had sex, how are you going to prove it didn't happen? Especially since you said yourself she is not a virgin.
I know it’s a big what if, but guess what? It happens! Just not sure it’s worth the possibilities, even if the possibility is low.
As for waiting until your married… no offense but I don’t see you or this girl doing that if you are both already sexually active. You both will already know what your missing since you already “tasted the goods” so to speak.
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#315633 - 05/05/08 02:41 PM
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cant they do anything about that though? like with that allegation? close friends of hers? lie detectors? (wait arent those none submissable in court?)
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#315637 - 05/05/08 02:50 PM
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I don't know the answer to your questions, but I think the easiest way to stay out of trouble, is to not be in it.
Nothing wrong with being friends and as long as you keep it completely clean, you're fine.
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#315638 - 05/05/08 02:50 PM
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At least here pretty much anything you do sexually, at least 'till she's 16, including overt, elicit talk can be, and will be, construed as "sexual abuse" and you will be labeled a pedophile.
Then by the time she's 16 you'll be 19 and pretty much back in the same fuckin' boat.
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#315639 - 05/05/08 02:52 PM
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Aye they cannot be used as factual evidence in court as you can "trick" a lie detector.
In situations like I presented, it's your word against her word. Regardless, it's not a position I would even want to think about putting myself in.
Again you have to weight if it’s worth it in the end. As VS said you guys are both in different stages in life, you are getting into your "adulthood" years, as she's barely a teenager. Chances are you guys are not going to be a lasting thing, as your goals in life will change.
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#315640 - 05/05/08 02:53 PM
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even if she ignites the conversation between the two of us about sex? man... i seriously gotta be careful... ill try to keep it friendly...
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#315641 - 05/05/08 02:57 PM
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even if she ignites the conversation between the two of us about sex? man... i seriously gotta be careful... ill try to keep it friendly...
Yup even if she initiates the conversation. You are going to be looked at the person who "Should have known better", and the adult in the situation.
There was a situation where a 14-year-old girl was at a house party, seduced a football player who was 17. Gave him oral sex, and stupidly got it on tape and now he's in prison and will for the rest of his life be labeled as a pedophile. The girl even admitted to seducing the football player but because he was more of the adult he was to “know better”, and there for got charged with statutory rape.
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#315642 - 05/05/08 02:57 PM
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Yes even if she initiates the conversation, if you don't excuse yourself from it quickly, your ass is still fried. It would just be pretty much assumed you manipulated her into it or that being the older "adult" you should be more responsible and not letting yourself get into such conversations with a minor.
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#315644 - 05/05/08 02:59 PM
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that/this sucks... what if i have her fill out a contract :-P lmao... can i present that in court?
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#315646 - 05/05/08 03:02 PM
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that/this sucks... what if i have her fill out a contract :-P lmao... can i present that in court?
You're kiding I hope?? LoL That would never hold up in court, as they can say you coerced her into the contract. Plus being that she is still considered a child she cannot legally sign a contract.
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#315647 - 05/05/08 03:02 PM
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Why don't you ask the guys in the Texas FLDS..P...S..D, whatever. There claims of religious freedom aren't standing up to well in court.
You would be better off just not playing with fire.
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#315649 - 05/05/08 03:10 PM
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In many cases, the minor is considered the aggressor, but it's the adults that are supposed to have enough self control to put a stop to it.
You're almost an adult; she has a couple years yet.
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#315654 - 05/05/08 03:23 PM
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Seriously, you may have knocked up another girl...why don't you deal with that issue or the other personal issues you have brought up on A2A before you jump into another relationship?
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#315656 - 05/05/08 03:31 PM
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>>>"so i have to wait till shes AT LEAST 16 1/2 or 17?"
No because, as I said, by the time she's that age your gonna be 19. You'll have to wait then 'till she's 18 and your 21.
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#315659 - 05/05/08 03:43 PM
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wow... 21 seems soo long from now...
and oh yea, im sorry for not posting this earlier... but the girl got her period today!!! :-D im really happy about that, and sorry lady's... but im never trusting u when it comes to sex again!!!
i was going to buy her a test tomorrow, but she got it today when i was talking to her, we were sitting on the stairs, and it started, it seeped through her underwear and showed on her pants... i thought it was gross... but i was so estatic i hugged her and jumped off the stairs... then started laughing as i was running up my stairs...
i have a new saying... "If i aint gotta trojan, then me and you aint fuck'n"
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#315661 - 05/05/08 03:48 PM
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i have a new saying... "If i aint gotta trojan, then me and you aint fuck'n"
I thought sayings were supposed to rhyme, or at least be catchy!
Come on thought you were a rapper, you can do better than that!
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#315675 - 05/05/08 04:50 PM
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How can you say you care alot about your ex.. when you talk about dating some 14 year old the day you two officially seperate?
My advice is to stay single for a while.. friends of mine have told me that was their biggest mistake. moving on too quickly after a break up. This is WAY too quickly.
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#315677 - 05/05/08 05:22 PM
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me and her have been unofficially broken up for almost 2 weeks... and she told me that she hated me... and i did so much for her, so yea imma little resentful towards her, but i do love her...
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if i aint gotta TRO-GEN, then me and you aint FUCK-N... not fucking lol.. sorry i forget some people dont pronounce things like i do...
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