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#315996 - 05/07/08 03:06 AM

What can you actually do?

TheFallenLight
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I hear some of the really muscular and toned people work out for 2-3 hours a day( or the days you work). But unless they mean walking, what would you possibly do for 2 hours?

I can do around 150 jumping jacks, 2 sets of (15) push ups. and 20 or so crunches in about 15 minutes or so. maybe less.

it seems to me unless there's allot of several minutes breaks, there's not much you can do for 2 hours. I know I only named a handful of exercises but still.

Edited by TheFallenLight (05/07/08 03:08 AM)

#316008 - 05/07/08 06:35 AM

Re: What can you actually do? [Re: TheFallenLight]

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I think they are usually on various gym machines, exercise bikes, etc. I presume they get a lot more muscle work done than those exercises would do. You can jog for that length of time, too.

I suppose the key is not exercising so hard that you can't take any more after a few minutes, but doing it at a rate that you can keep up for longer.

#316022 - 05/07/08 11:31 AM

Re: What can you actually do? [Re: TheFallenLight]

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That which you listed is a joke for those who are serious about toning their body.

#316030 - 05/07/08 01:06 PM

Re: What can you actually do? [Re: sdp]

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Originally Posted By: sdp

That which you listed is a joke for those who are serious about toning their body.

Agreed.

I work with a Personal Trainer two days a week, hour-long sessions. We work on MANY different machines, doing 3-4 sets of 15 at each station. After the hour sessions I go do intense cardio for about 15-20 minutes. I than do long term cardio 3 to 4 days a week for about an hour, and finish with around 15 minutes of intense abs workout.

So no I certainly don’t spend 2-3 hours a day at the gym; I’m just not a gym-rat. BUT if you are serious about getting a fit toned body you are going to have to spend more than 15-20 minutes a day at the gym or working out.

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#316136 - 05/07/08 05:52 PM

Re: What can you actually do? [Re: NtroducingMyself]

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I'm not gonna be doing much to try to do anything with my body, I don't have the right foods to help me recover.

My body needs like 150g of protein if I work out, and I just can't get more then maybe 60 atm. also lacking vitamins and stuff, I won't be able to get for awhile.

#316137 - 05/07/08 06:09 PM

Re: What can you actually do? [Re: TheFallenLight]

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You do not need 150 grams of protein.

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#316142 - 05/07/08 06:54 PM

Re: What can you actually do? [Re: Cider]

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Originally Posted By: Cider

You do not need 150 grams of protein.

Actually they say you need 1 - 1.5 grams your body weight, in protein. Remember, most of the alloted protein one consumes goes to keep the heart functioning. If you're working out, and want to develop muscles, you'll need the heart sustainable protein...and then some to go to excess muscle build up.

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#316160 - 05/07/08 08:38 PM

Re: What can you actually do? [Re: blackmanoncampus]

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I've read you need .8 Half of my body weight would be 95g of protein, so 80% of 190 would be 152g.

Of course if I need 1-1.5g of protein per pound of body weight, Cider is correct.

I need 190-220. not 150.

Edited by TheFallenLight (05/07/08 09:40 PM)
Edit Reason: changing 90g to 95g due to inaccurate math

#316187 - 05/07/08 10:08 PM

Re: What can you actually do? [Re: TheFallenLight]

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If cider was implying that you needed MORE than 150, then I apologize and yes, cider is indeed correct.

However, if the inverse is true, and cider was saying you didn't need even that much...then...my original statement stands.

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#316197 - 05/07/08 10:33 PM

Re: What can you actually do? [Re: blackmanoncampus]

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Who knows.

#316207 - 05/07/08 11:57 PM

Re: What can you actually do? [Re: blackmanoncampus]

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Ya, I meant he probably needed more. Sorry that wasn't clear, I was working -- and still am -- on an essay.

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#316211 - 05/08/08 12:19 AM

Re: What can you actually do? [Re: Cider]

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I dunno I've read many things.

I've seen some people say you need up to 2g of protein per pound.
but i read other sites that's ridiculously over judged and it's only .8

So I dunno, I just know I need at least 150. and I'm only getting 60 or so,

#316212 - 05/08/08 12:25 AM

Re: What can you actually do? [Re: TheFallenLight]

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Do you not eat many meats or things that are high in protein? Though I wouldn't really consider the burgers at fast food restaurants meat... I have meat for dinner almost every day and sometimes meat in my lunch. Then there are things like protein bars and shakes that you can eat for extra protein for working out.

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#316214 - 05/08/08 01:04 AM

Re: What can you actually do? [Re: Cider]

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I do, but that's my problem, I only get to eat anything with protein in it at super.

I mean at super I can usually get say 30-40g of protein from meat and 16 from the macaroni. and 3-4 from peas or other greens or occasionally beans.

But then I have nothing else to eat.

I mean my only snack option atm is Apples Banana's and roman noodles, none of which have protein to speak of.

#316216 - 05/08/08 01:32 AM

Re: What can you actually do? [Re: TheFallenLight]

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What is "super"? Also, are you sure its only 30-40 g or protein? I don't know how large the portions are that you eat, but it could be more. Sandwiches with meat in them would help, too. And for the remaining stuff for workouts, stuff like protein shakes or bars -- as well as whey -- can help, too.

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#316220 - 05/08/08 02:23 AM

Re: What can you actually do? [Re: Cider]

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Supper* aka dinner. And if I had money for protein bars/shakes. I would have money for food with protein in it.

And yes I'm sure, I make sure to read the calories and proteins and things like that in them.

Most singular food doesn't have over 40g of protein anyway. as a matter of fact, the only meat I know of that has over 40g of protein in a single serving is a buffalo steak.

#316224 - 05/08/08 03:08 AM

Re: What can you actually do? [Re: TheFallenLight]

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tuna fish...cheap, buy in bulk...
chicken/steak...cheap if bought in bulk.

take out a piece, cook it up..and you're good to go.

Think, you need 190-200g protein per day...split over the six small meals you SHOULD be eating...that's what? 30g/meal? That's not hard when chicken breast alone has like 30g lol and tuna fish has like 12g per can.

then rice, noodles, veggies, all the other foods...beans...that have protein. it's not hard.

The only problem is consuming the 6 meals. You should be eating about every 2.5 - 3 hours.

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#316226 - 05/08/08 03:33 AM

Re: What can you actually do? [Re: blackmanoncampus]

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12 lol no. a actual can has 32g + bread and cheese which run a sandwich if you use the whole can to be 42g of protein. which I do when I eat Tuna.

But I keep reading don't eat more then 1 can or so a week because you can get mercury poisoning.

#316227 - 05/08/08 06:16 AM

Re: What can you actually do? [Re: TheFallenLight]

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lol just checked..
we're both wrong $\:\)$ it's 13g on the Chunk light, chicken of the sea *in oil*. This is a 6oz can, mind you.

But even still...get yourself a big slab of cheap meat (fer serious, you guys) and just cut it into 8oz strips..BAM food for a week $\:\)$ or a can of beans. The thing is, protein and carbs are your friend when you want to put on LEAN muscle mass $\:\)$ try for about 2 lbs./week. 8lbs./month is a serious increase in strength.

You can do eet!!

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#316319 - 05/08/08 11:37 PM

Re: What can you actually do? [Re: blackmanoncampus]

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No it's 32.5g of protein to be exact.

It's 13g of protein per serving and there is 2.5 servings in a can of tuna.

#316349 - 05/09/08 01:15 AM

Re: What can you actually do? [Re: TheFallenLight]

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Good call! See what happens when I post on lack of sleep? Math skills go right out the winder.

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#316391 - 05/09/08 09:38 PM

Re: What can you actually do? [Re: blackmanoncampus]

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200g of protein per day is a ridiculous amount, even if you're trying to put on muscle mass.

#316409 - 05/10/08 05:41 AM

Re: What can you actually do? [Re: kmrobins]

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Not if you weigh 200lbs., it's not. Nor is it if you weight even 150.

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#316423 - 05/10/08 11:36 PM

Re: What can you actually do? [Re: blackmanoncampus]

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Arny ate between 150-300g a day, and body building was his life. Do you really think we need that much?

#316429 - 05/11/08 01:45 AM

Re: What can you actually do? [Re: kmrobins]

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Yes. If the goal of the person is to continuously build muscle. If the goal is to NOT build extra muscle, and they are content with how they are and their physique, then no. They will need to eat just as much as their body requires to maintain.

Arny during his competition times was 235lbs. Off comp time he was more. That does coincide with at least 1g protein/pound/day.

Also, people who bodybuild for a living, not to earn money, but more as their lifestyle (www.bodybuilding.com) state NUMEROUS times that 1-1.5g/lb is what one needs to consume per day. So it's not just some unintelligent drivel $\:\)$ (not accusing you of calling it such, either).

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#318057 - 05/27/08 07:27 AM

Re: What can you actually do? [Re: TheFallenLight]

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http://www.t-nation.com OR musclewithattitude.com (women)

I use their sister site http://www.musclewithattitude.com $\:\)$ I've noticed pretty much only women on MWA and it's great place for support especially for females who like muscle (as it's kind of taboo apparently..I never knew that..). The guys do chip in but usually to cheer us on!

Anyway, they can get you started. Something I was told is that you should include protein in every meal you eat even your snacks. You should be eating 4-6x daily. And let me say they should be small meals not HUGE portions. If you're low on cash they can help you by telling you some cost efficient methods of getting what you need. And more importantly, they *want* to help!

Also, 15-30 minutes of exercise IS plenty if you're *just* starting out. It won't take that much to wear yourself out if you're a begginer. We *all* start somewhere. You don't just wake up one morning and decide you're going to spend 2 hours in a gym 2-6 days a week. If you can't get a gym membership and money is an issue you can use two empty 1 gallon milk containers, fill them with water (you don't have to fill them full right away) and use those as weights. If you're in college, tons of them have their own gyms. I'm not saying their great but they work. Again, if you're just starting out 15-30 minutes of cardio is better than if you did nothing at all.

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