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#353642 - 03/04/10 08:19 PM Re: School dances sure have changed. [Re: thor]
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I'm older than you thor, so defer - or expose your hypocrisy.

Perhaps when you reach my age you will realise what a fool you have been (but I doubt it).

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#353644 - 03/04/10 08:51 PM Re: School dances sure have changed. [Re: Ineligible]
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It does look set up to me - the children have obviously been taught the moves.


You really think it's "set up"???... It doesn't look like that to me.. It's looks like a dance contest at a birthday party.

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#353645 - 03/04/10 09:59 PM Re: School dances sure have changed. [Re: sdp]
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From the way they all dance erotically from the beginning, I deduced they have been coached. If you asked a group of young children simply to dance, I think you would expect a variation of styles, at least at first, and (at that age) some reluctance to pair up. Of course it is possible that before the start of the video they had already been through that stage, and had got to the stage of unanimity, but it does seem too uniform.
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#353647 - 03/04/10 10:24 PM Re: School dances sure have changed. [Re: Ineligible]
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IDK.. It seems like it might be the thing "to do" in whatever part of the world they are and thus know how to do it.
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#353648 - 03/05/10 04:04 AM Re: School dances sure have changed. [Re: sdp]
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 Originally Posted By: sdp
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It does look set up to me - the children have obviously been taught the moves.


You really think it's "set up"???... It doesn't look like that to me.. It's looks like a dance contest at a birthday party.


Yep...now I notice streamers coming down from above. And the language sounds like some kind of latin base...perhaps Spanish or Portugese. I definately heard "aye corumba" more than once. As for being US or not, I see nothing that would indicate one way or another. But I do note at least one person had a cell phone, and we must acknowledge that somebody there had a video camera. Those things, especially the camera, would make me lean a little more towards it being inside the US. But, as I said before, really inconclusive. Still not sure it wasn't some kind of school. Too many kids of varying ages laying around...and there was definitely some teaching going on there, official gov't or not.

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#353649 - 03/05/10 04:05 AM Re: School dances sure have changed. [Re: Ineligible]
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I'm older than you thor, so defer - or expose your hypocrisy.

Perhaps when you reach my age you will realise what a fool you have been (but I doubt it).


Unless you're roughly twice my age (or more) you can give it a rest.

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#353650 - 03/05/10 04:06 AM Re: School dances sure have changed. [Re: Ineligible]
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From the way they all dance erotically from the beginning, I deduced they have been coached.


That's one of the things that makes me lean towards it actually being in a school of some kind.

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#353651 - 03/05/10 06:47 AM Re: School dances sure have changed. [Re: sdp]
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It looks like you are right, sdp. Googling the video brings up lots of discussions from people who, like us, really know little about it; but at http://eqoa.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=4&mid=126678035777589391&num=14&page=1 there is a poster who does know something. She(?) says:

This is called "perreo" and it's the standard humplike dance for reggeaton. I'm guessing this video is from a house birthday party in the D.R., from the accent.

On the one hand, I remember dancing salsa and merengue with my cousins and it being no big deal (adults would laugh at us acting all grown and point out how we were doing), so I tend to think that they taped it as a joke. At one point the woman getting the kids to dance yells "Get the cops, get the firefighters".

On the other hand, I remember dance contests being a big thing, entertainment-wise at parties and you would just do the latest dance. I've seen kids dance a convincing tango that made me feel icky, so I think it's a definite possibility these kids just know that this is how you dance to that kind of music and catch on pretty quickly to what that means. That one older couple in the back of the room kissed at one point, I'm pretty sure. When the camera pans back on them, the girl is helping the guy wipe his lips.

I'm not a sociologist, but I'd tend to think the more humble the community, the earlier they'll be knocking boots. I once met a guy from Ghana who told me he got some at 5, and I know a guy from Mexico that lost it at 9.


There's a useful Wikipedia article on perreo. Significant to our discussion is that this is the standard dance associated with that type of music. Hence the uniformity I was concerned about, which shows that I was looking at the situation from a too Western point of view.

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#353652 - 03/05/10 11:29 AM Re: School dances sure have changed. [Re: Ineligible]
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There's a useful Wikipedia article on perreo. Significant to our discussion is that this is the standard dance associated with that type of music. Hence the uniformity I was concerned about, which shows that I was looking at the situation from a too Western point of view.


Some things are just plain wrong...regardless of how "enlightened" one believes their point of view to be.

It appears the most likely place this video came from is Puerto Rico...an American territory, if I'm not mistaken. Now it's on the internet.

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#353653 - 03/05/10 11:51 AM Re: School dances sure have changed. [Re: thor]
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don't know what it has to do with enlightenment. Some things are fine for grownups but not for kids.
Old punk that I am, I would suggest that slam dancing is not for kids either as they don't know the methods of avoiding injury nor the unspoken honor system involved.
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#353660 - 03/05/10 04:52 PM Re: School dances sure have changed. [Re: thor]
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Who said anything about "enlightened"? I took too Western a view because I failed to realise the dance style might be culturally-embedded - I drew an inference about specific coaching, when in fact it was culturally coached.

Long ago the church I was at ran junior discos, and certain songs induced in all the participants a common style of dancing, because that was the 'correct' dance for that music. One was 'Time Warp' - the kiddies all knew the dance, including pelvic thrusts. I'm sure the same dance was common all over the US. People didn't get upset about how inappropriate it was, partly because they were culturally accustomed to it, and partly because for most participants it was in practice quite innocent.

Did you notice that that poster believed the accents indicated the Dominican Republic?

Puerto Rico is an unincorporated territory of the United States. This means that it is governed by the United States but is not part of the United States. Its residents are US citizens but they cannot vote in US elections unless they move to the US. Effectively it is a semi-autonomous colony of the US, though this terminology is not officially used.

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#353661 - 03/05/10 05:27 PM Re: School dances sure have changed. [Re: Ineligible]
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 Originally Posted By: Ineligible

Long ago the church I was at ran junior discos, and certain songs induced in all the participants a common style of dancing, because that was the 'correct' dance for that music. One was 'Time Warp' - the kiddies all knew the dance, including pelvic thrusts. I'm sure the same dance was common all over the US. People didn't get upset about how inappropriate it was, partly because they were culturally accustomed to it, and partly because for most participants it was in practice quite innocent.

I've seen this happen at a Christian college. Instead of getting all up in arms and lecturing about inappropriate dancing, the administration just started telling the dj's 'don't play this song and this song'. Problem solved. Cause, you're right, they weren't humping the floor to songs at random, just to 'Atomic Dog'.
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