All holy books are ridiculous. Based on no truth, all speculation and made up stories.

Grr, another YouTube video for something that could read in text much more quickly.

Because you say so?

Because they have no empirical evidence backing up their claims/stories.

Just to clarify about the video (necessary because I originally wrote in too much haste), I don't dislike that typographical video style itself, it's just the fact that it is a video and not text. If I'm reading text most of the time I will be reading it a lot faster than it will be said in a video. However, if something needs more thought, when reading I can automatically slow down as much as I need; and I can go back and re-read bits whenever I wish. A video has only one speed, often too slow, but at some points too fast. (Yes, you can repeat bits, but still only at the one speed.) I get especially irritated when there is nothing that really needs a video to display it.

I believe studies have shown that video is a particularly ineffective method of teaching. But sorry to distract from the point of the thread.

But the largest error you are making is supposing that empirical evidence is the only criteria for truth.

Without getting too heavy into this stuff (out of courtesy to the board, I'm trying to cut down on the militant atheism ), what other criteria are there for truth in terms of the Bible?

Revelation?

You two have become such weenies.

Without getting too heavy into this stuff (out of courtesy to you and the board, and just a lack of desire to get into it ) I would say historical evidence and revelation, for starters.

A burning bush telling you that a plague of raining frogs is coming is surely more a sign of insanity than revelation.

Historical evidence doesn't backup miracle stories in the bible. It doesn't actually prove anything except the environment in which these miracle stories could have taken place.

Revelation is not evidence.

Suck it, weenie boy!
roflmao

Ahh...unless the plague of raining frogs actually materializes. At that point it actually becomes supporting (empirical) evidence to corroborate the revelation.

This is known as "dhimmitude"

So, a private business owner i.e. taxi driver, won't allow alcohol in his work place... FOR SHAME!!

For those who have read the link, the meaning as used within this thread is obvious for those who are truly interested in understanding it...less so for those who are not.

once again, you and/or your FOX mentors are MAKING SHIT UP!

I've seen many statement from out mutual friend that strangely mirror recent commentaries by Beck of Hannity.

...once again, you and/or your FOX mentors are MAKING SHIT UP!

Or it could be one of many New York mosques that is built in New York to service the large Muslim community in the area.

What they are doing, no matter what their intentions, is not illegal so there is nothing you can do about it but bitch and moan.

The legality has not yet been decided. In America, there are zoning laws...laws which allow for the input of the local populace on such matters (as long as somebody like Obama doesn't illegally ram it down their throats).

Seems to me you get crabby whenever I place doubt about your position in your mind. Maybe you should stop reading my posts?

-there is an actual mosque closer to ground zero and has existed there since before the construction of the trade center.